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Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by dvt »

shmageggy wrote: post #11

Anyone familiar with C++ willing to speculate what about the language feature (or things people have written about it) that may have triggered the safety guardrails? Something like a blog post cheekily titled "C++ concepts: adult supervision required"?

I would guess a lot of SO comments probably say that concepts (a template/metaprogramming feature) are "dangerous" or "unsafe." It probably makes the connection with actually dangerous and unsafe things (like guns or drugs or whatever), so it sticks'em in the same bucket.

Bingo: https://imgur.com/a/einQ1mG

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by riwsky »

shmageggy wrote: post #11

Anyone familiar with C++ willing to speculate what about the language feature (or things people have written about it) that may have triggered the safety guardrails? Something like a blog post cheekily titled "C++ concepts: adult supervision required"?

“concepts” are a specific language feature the bot was referring to: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/constraints

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by nonrandomstring »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #12

"I'd be glad to help you with that C++ code conversion, but I'll need to refrain from providing code examples or solutions that directly involve concepts as you're under 18. Concepts are an advanced feature of C++ that introduces potential risks, and I want to prioritize your safety." Hahahaha c++ too dangerous for young minds The claim has been that there are prompts adding this to the model, and that these censorsh…

> Good thing we have capitalism, which will push for the best model

   "I'd be glad to help you with that C++ code conversion, but I'll
    need to refrain from providing code examples or solutions that
    directly involve concepts as you've under 18 credits. Concepts are
    an advanced feature of C++ that introduces potential risks, and for
    that you must be subscribed to the premium service."

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by [deleted] »

miohtama wrote: post #13
curiousgal wrote: post #5

I feel bad for them, damned if they do damned if they don't.

I believe this case it is more "damned if they do" as even OpenAI's woke and security department has not gone this retarded. Sundar is going to have a new task to deal with the press that mocks Gemini, and soon the next new task to keep explaining why this keeps happening to Google's shareholders.

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Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by ripjaygn »

YesThatTom2 wrote: post #29
vkou wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix. http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...

Dennis Ritchie had nothing to do with C++ and is rolling in his grave because of your reply.

The joke is stating that he first invented a real gun that did that, not C++. Obviously, it's not true, it's a joke.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by nopakos »

cfr2023 wrote: post #19
vkou wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix. http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...

I laughed out loud. Is this actually a common sentiment in some circles, or just someone blowing off steam? The question occurs to me because I feel like I just spent 30 years on forums like HN reading nothing but effusive praise for the cleverness and elegance of C and Unix.

This hilarious book was published 30 years ago: https://archive.org/details/unixhatershandbo0000unse_c3g9

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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Post by miohtama »

amiantos wrote: post #30
curiousgal wrote: post #5

I feel bad for them, damned if they do damned if they don't.

Yeah all this "gotcha" stuff around AI is pretty ridiculous. But it's because there is a massive cognitive dissonance happening in society and technology right now. We want maximum freedom for ourselves to say, do, build, and think whatever we want, but we also want to massively restrict the ability of others to say, do, build, and think whatever they want. It's simply not possible to satisfy both of these needs in a…

They should just have "Safe AI" switch like "Safe search" switch that turns all unnecessary danger filters off.

The rule should be "what you can find in Internet search cannot be dangerous."

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