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Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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In this case, I think the assumption that doesn't bear out is "stable amount of population". The relationship between death rate and expected lifespan is likely calculable, but only if you also have either age data or at least approximate change in birthrate data, preferably going back to living memory. We might have that available somewhere, but I don't think your estimate came from having it. Like let's say there's…

Yes, but also part of my point, that the above author based on these numbers implied that World is getting more dangerous, but firstly as you mentioned these numbers are meaningless if we don't know the exact demographics of the 100k and secondly for a stable 100k these would be really good numbers.

Makes sense from that perspective. Thanks for taking the time to clarify

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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Garry Tan has a lot of X/Twitter posts on the subject. 68% of SF overdose deaths seem to happen inside shelters. Recently one of the shelter workers overdosed as well. There seems to be a massive disconnect between intention and consequences of policies. https://x.com/garrytan/status/1750566946201047218?s=46&t=bGA...

We could legalize all drugs so people can have access to clean drugs of a known potency.

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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I've volunteered with the homeless for years. Someone doesn't get laid off from a corporate job and go live on the street. These are folks who exhausted the social safety nets, ran out of family members to impose on, ran out of friends' couches -- they're alcohol and drug addicts who burned all their bridges. Many of them have never held jobs at all.

And therefore they do not deserve to live.

No, but unfortunately they're much harder to help than the former ones.

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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post #27

Garry Tan has a lot of X/Twitter posts on the subject. 68% of SF overdose deaths seem to happen inside shelters. Recently one of the shelter workers overdosed as well. There seems to be a massive disconnect between intention and consequences of policies. https://x.com/garrytan/status/1750566946201047218?s=46&t=bGA...

We could legalize all drugs so people can have access to clean drugs of a known potency.

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Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've volunteered with the homeless for years. Someone doesn't get laid off from a corporate job and go live on the street. These are folks who exhausted the social safety nets, ran out of family members to impose on, ran out of friends' couches -- they're alcohol and drug addicts who burned all their bridges. Many of them have never held jobs at all.

And therefore they do not deserve to live.

You're trying to put these words in the mouth of a person that has volunteered with the homeless. Isn't there a contradiction somewhere?

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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That's weird! Did something happen during 2020???

In 2020, the two main sources of life-sustaining resources for people without housing -- public spaces and other people -- were almost entirely cut off.

imagine being a homeless person looking at the news everyone saying "just stay at home!"

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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When we look back at the history of the US, the one practice that stands out is slavery. Today, we can only shake our heads and wonder how so-called civilized people allowed that abomination to continue for as long as it did. How can so many people have looked upon so much human suffering for so long, without lifting a finger? Today, we are forcing people out into the street through low wages and callous layoffs to i…

I've volunteered with the homeless for years. Someone doesn't get laid off from a corporate job and go live on the street. These are folks who exhausted the social safety nets, ran out of family members to impose on, ran out of friends' couches -- they're alcohol and drug addicts who burned all their bridges. Many of them have never held jobs at all.

What are you trying to say? It's their own fault?

I also volunteered working with the homeless. There is nobody who chooses to live on the streets. Those who do have mental health issues.

I am 100% sure it is a society problem, not an individual problem.

Re: Homeless Mortality Data

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you're right, we should make all drugs cheap too!

Good, so let's do that first before making an already terribly exploitative system even worse.

This where I think criminalization actually serves to increase exploitation and increase the incentives for exploitation.
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