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I wonder if they're allowed at SFO?
They are not. SFO, owned by the city of SF and at the behest of city officials, have been notorious in blocking Waymo: https://missionlocal.org/2023/11/waymo-rebuffed-by-sfo-sf-gu...
I love Waymo and use it all the time. One aspect I'd still like to see them figure out: As a bike commuter, I share the road with Waymo often. When cycling, you're always checking the eyes of other drivers to confirm if they see you. I've had a couple incidents where I was a little thrown/unnerved because I couldn't confirm if a Waymo was registering me. It ultimately behaved fine, but I had to put my guard way up be…
You can imagine some ominously humorous implementations of this. Red dot laser for pointing out people?
I love Waymo and use it all the time. One aspect I'd still like to see them figure out: As a bike commuter, I share the road with Waymo often. When cycling, you're always checking the eyes of other drivers to confirm if they see you. I've had a couple incidents where I was a little thrown/unnerved because I couldn't confirm if a Waymo was registering me. It ultimately behaved fine, but I had to put my guard way up be…
They have tried many variations out, but so far they don't seem to think they work better than doing nothing. The only communication the Waymo's currently do it to signal that they are stopping for pedestrians, both to the pedestrians themselves and also to the cars behind. https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/13/23913251/waymo-roof-dome...
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It’s one of those experiences you didn’t realize you wanted until you have it. - No need for chit chat, you can just work / talk on the phone / play music - No 18-hour shift sweat and deodorant smell - No cursing at other drivers or awkward apologies because of fear of a bad rating - Smooth, predictable driving. I have yet to have a “holy shit” moment in a Waymo, but this happens regularly in Uber / Lyft. Also on saf…
IDK, It just sounds like some people have bad experiences and is using negativity bias to justify early tech (and ofc a skewed audience who seems to abhor socialties). All my uber rides were boring and uneventful. I see no need to pay a premium to guarantee that. Meanwhile the driving experience of autonomous drivers is still not at a satisfactory stage for me. Maybe it worked fine in SF, but LA has some pretty rough…
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I feel like no one in this thread lives in LA. This is going to be an absolute catastrophe. Driving out here is like Thunderdome. There is zero way in hell I'd ever trust some Waymo car to make some insane left turn across 6 lanes of rush hour traffic out here, let alone the freeway.
I see it as a trial by fire. If Waymo can handle LA, it can handle anywhere (that doesn't have awful weather).
If you open Uber and the app says a car is 9 minutes away that’s really anywhere from 5 to 15.
With Waymo if they say it’s 9 minutes to get a ride they mean 9 minutes. They’re not waiting for a human to accept your ride, they’re scheduling resources.
The lack of variance makes delays much more tolerable, IMO.
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They have tried many variations out, but so far they don't seem to think they work better than doing nothing. The only communication the Waymo's currently do it to signal that they are stopping for pedestrians, both to the pedestrians themselves and also to the cars behind. https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/13/23913251/waymo-roof-dome...
Even if the cars had a "I'm currently deciding" indicator it would be a major improvement. My only issue with these sorts of anti-socialized services is not being able to promptly and easily sue for remedy. Maybe a blood price on a few mid-level managers (or possibly higher depending on the situation) if the service ends up killing people. That would put my heart at mind in the marketplace of the future.
Million dollar idea right there
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Even if the cars had a "I'm currently deciding" indicator it would be a major improvement. My only issue with these sorts of anti-socialized services is not being able to promptly and easily sue for remedy. Maybe a blood price on a few mid-level managers (or possibly higher depending on the situation) if the service ends up killing people. That would put my heart at mind in the marketplace of the future.
> "I'm currently deciding" indicator Million dollar idea right there
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Ditto as a motorcyclist. Making eye contact with drivers makes riding a lot easier. You know they see you.
When I'm on a motorcycle, I assume they are never seeing me - but it's still useful to see them , and I can often tell what they are about to do before they've started doing it. I have not yet had the chance to share the road with a robot, but I wonder whether that feeling for traffic will still work.
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When I'm on a motorcycle, I assume they are never seeing me - but it's still useful to see them , and I can often tell what they are about to do before they've started doing it. I have not yet had the chance to share the road with a robot, but I wonder whether that feeling for traffic will still work.
Yeh, the only time I assume a driver has really seen me is when we make eye contact. (But - twice in 20 years I’ve had the chilling experience of a driver making eye contact and pulling out in front of me anyway.)
That was more of a problem in my 'Sturm & Drang' time. These days grannys on their electically-assisted bicycles are faster than me, hence I don't surprise car drivers any more.