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The organization consists of the non-profit OpenAI, Inc. registered in Delaware and its for-profit subsidiary OpenAI Global, LLC. (From Wikipedia)
A non-profit can have a for-profit subsidiary?
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The organization consists of the non-profit OpenAI, Inc. registered in Delaware and its for-profit subsidiary OpenAI Global, LLC. (From Wikipedia)
A non-profit can have a for-profit subsidiary?
The cynic in me believes this is motivated by not Musk's love for the "mission", but by xAI, his attempt to build OpenAI's competitor. I'm guessing this is just a way to weaken a competitor.
I feel like we now have a reasonable expectation that his AI effort becomes open source. Not that I actually expect it, but seems reasonable in this context.
In what capacity is Musk suing OpenAI? Musk may have co-founded the company, but then he left (to avoid any potential future conflict of interest with his role as CEO of Tesla, as Tesla was increasingly becoming an AI-intensive company). Is he a shareholder, if not what gives him any say in the future of the company?
The essential theory of the case is that OpenAI is misusing the funds Musk donated to it. reads prayer for relief > For a judicial determination that GPT-4 constitutes Artificial General Intelligence Okay, WTF? I'm going to have to read the entire complaint now.....
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you cannot erase that much value and say "nothing important happens", market cap is largely a rough proxy for the amount of disruption if something went under
I do not think the situation is remotely comparable to the possibility of the banking system collapsing. Banks and other financial institutions exert leverage far beyond their market caps.
The defendant list is a bit bewildering. How usual is a corporate structure like this? Which, if any of these, is the nonprofit? OPENAI, INC., a corporation, OPENAI, L.P., a limited partnership, OPENAI, L.L.C., a limited liability company, OPENAI GP, L.L.C., a limited liability company, OPENAI OPCO, LLC, a limited liability company, OPENAI GLOBAL, LLC, a limited liability company, OAI CORPORATION, LLC, a limited liab…
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Has there been a successful suit against a company for "abandoning their founding mission"? Does anyone think that this suit will succeed? Another article: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/01/elon-musk...
When the world’s richest man sues you, being a saint wouldn't be a reliable defence.
EXACTLY, a year ago, an alarm echoed with urgency: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34979981
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I completely agree. AGI is an existential threat, but the real meat of this lawsuit is ensuring that you can't let founders have their cake and eat it like this. what's the point of a non-profit if they can simply pivot to making profit the second they have something of value? the answer is that there is none, besides dishonesty. it's quite sad that the American regulatory system is in such disrepair that we could ev…
There is no reliable evidence that AGI is an existential threat, nor that it is even achievable within our lifetimes. Current OpenAI products are useful and technically impressive but no one has shown that they represent steps towards a true AGI.
>no one has shown that they represent steps towards a true AGI.
this is completely irrelevant. there is no solid definition for intelligence or consciousness, never mind artificial intelligence and/or consciousness. there is no way to prove such a thing without actually being that consciousness. all we have are inputs and outputs. as of now, we do not know whether stringing together incredibly complex neural networks to produce information does not in fact produce a form of consciousness, because we do not live in those networks, and we simply do not know what consciousness is.
is it achievable in our lifetimes or not? well, even if it isn't, which I find deeply unlikely, it's very silly to just handwave and say "yeah we should just be barrelling towards this willy nilly because it's probably not a threat and it'll never happen anyway"
Wouldn't you have to prove damages in a lawsuit like this? What damages does Musk personally suffer if OpenAI has in fact broken their contract?