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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Post by viraptor »

Lammy wrote: post #94

Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…

It would be amazing if Valve stepped up with legal funds/protection there. They do get money from people buying SteamDecks for emulation and well... free publicity if they take on Nintendo.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

codedokode wrote: post #95

> As a result, Nintendo ... is demanding that the Yuzu emulator is shut down. When corporations like Uber violate multiple laws, do they get shut down? When Amazon treats its employees poorly, does it get shut down? When Google forbids manufacturers to pre-install competitor apps, does it get shut down? Well, it seems that as long as copyright is not infringed, everything is ok. Also it seems to me that Nintendo migh…

Welcome to the real world. Either you are powerful enough to change the law or you have to follow whatever law exists

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Post by joemi »

tombert wrote: post #146

Yuzu is open source isn’t it? Nintendo can’t be completely incompetent here; if they get Yuzu shut down someone will inevitably fork it, and they have to know this. Presumably this is a play to try and establish precedent. They know that this lawsuit means nothing in itself, even if they win, but it can then be used to go after Retroarch or Higan or Mupen64 or Dolphin. This is bad.

> Presumably this is a play to try and establish precedent.

Of course it's to establish precedent. They can't file a case against "Yuzu and any future Switch emulators that don't exist yet". But that doesn't mean that it means nothing in itself. A victory against an emulator would be somewhat of a deterrent and would likely reduce piracy somewhat, at least for a little while.

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Post by [deleted] »

Analemma_ wrote: post #270
dheera wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to start a country with no extradition treaties that is a safe harbor for companies like this.

If you don't agree to a bunch of treaties around IP protection, you will find yourself frozen out of many free trade agreements and mostly unable to import or export anything except at crushing cost.

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Post by bigpapikite »

xnx wrote: post #244
deminature wrote: post #238

I wish they'd offer a legal avenue to play Switch games at 4K/60 instead of 720p/20-30. Anyone looking for a higher fidelity experience than the 2017 Switch hardware is able to provide is forced to use software like Yuzu to enable it. Even Sony has started porting their crown jewel games to PC to enormous commercial success, allowing players with high-end hardware to legally enjoy a higher fidelity experience, but Ni…

I've read rumors, and it seems very plausible, that Nintendo's next console might be able to play Switch games at higher resolution and/or framerate.

That's probably the case (as I don't know what else would make it worth buying), but the ultimate problem with Nintendo will still remain. They're bullies and they get away with it because they make some of the most consistently high quality first party games. Microsoft took the plunge first, but everyone is realizing that the future is an open platform. Turns out if you make a quality game and make it widely available people will buy it (surprise). But they're married to the idea of restricting how their titles are played, which is only going to continue to turn people off.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

dheera wrote: post #256
justinclift wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's a pretty stark illustration of "we have enough money to fuck you up, and are very willing to do so". "Might makes right" in action. Your monopoly point is an interesting one. Wonder if there's an actual legal case there, as Nintendo have done a lot of this bullying over the years.

I'd love to start a country with no extradition treaties that is a safe harbor for companies like this.

You will find yourself commercially isolated and therefore unable to run anything and therefore likely to suffer an invasion by any other nation.

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Post by pipeline_peak »

Lammy wrote: post #94

Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…

If that’s true, I wonder if the Switch successor will be a lot similar.

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Post by joemi »

zucker42 wrote: post #213

Two paragraphs into the legal complaint[1], Nintendo says such BS as: > A video game emulator is a piece of software that allows users to unlawfully play pirated video games that were published only for a specific console on a general-purpose computing device [1] https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-Americ...

Why is that BS? It's true. It's not the only use of an emulator, but it's the primary use.

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Post by xtracto »

fcsp wrote: post #222
Kranar wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were tons and TONS of ride sharing apps that got shut down as Uber was becoming popular due to regulatory violations: Sidecar, Juno, Poparide, Heetch, Taxify, and there are probably hundreds that got shut down in local markets. Plenty of companies get shut down for regulatory violations, or employee mistreatment. Pointing at some extreme outliers is nothing more than a form of selection bias.

Why didn't Uber though? Is it just enough money to buy the right lobbyists and lawyers?

Uber got successfully shot down in my city in Campeche Mexico [1]. Mostly due to corruption between government and taxi owners. But hey, it's possible!.

[1] https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2022/01/uber-could-be-return...

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