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Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Was that really a good thing? Active Directory in enterprise environments keep the hackers happy

I didn't know what the Active Directory is until now, although I found its Wikipedia page. Is it known for being insecure?

Not really, in 2024. GP is presenting a caricature.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Because I have to use Autodesk apps everyday I am forced to use Windows. There is not one other thing I can't do better, with a more efficient workflow on Linux. If ever there becomes a good way to run Revit on the cloud or on Wine, etc, I will throw a massive party.

Would Autodesk run on Crossover?

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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It may be true that Linux on the desktop is finally here, but I used to read about that on /. in the late '90s and early '00s, and people talk about it occasionally on HN. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't, but like 25 / 0 of the last "Linux is taking over the desktop" moments have been predicted.

I think by this point Linux desktop has matured enough that you can say with certain that the biggest problems is application availability. Users want to run Adobe's creative suite or Affinity software (because they have to, even tough there are some decent alternatives) or run some very specific Scientific/CAD/whatever software that has no parallel in the Linux world. Worse, sometimes its hard to get Linux native so…

I understand that there are closed source software tools used in science out there, but it seems pretty wrong-headed to me. A scientific tool that doesn’t have exposed source code seems not very trustworthy. If you get unexpected results, how do you know it wasn’t a bug?

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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Why is having even bigger market share so important? Android has bigger market share than iOS too yet iOS is the more profitable one. Microsoft cares about profit first, not unprofitable market share. Not saying they're right or wrong, just saying it seems to be working for their bottom line as Windows is less relevante towards that as the PC market has been in a continuous decline anyway in the last decade. Fighting…

why is being unable to maintain market share not an issue? Because of revenue? a large seller of windows is genuinely just it’s market cap, it doesn’t really have a lot of killer utility compared to contemporaries. If it loses market cap then it’s a precipitous issue for them as there’s no point choosing the OS for other reasons, it simply lacks the value. It’s market cap comes from people thinking it has a huge audi…

>why is being unable to maintain market share not an issue?

Because unless you're from the 90's, the market for desktop operating systems is not one that generates a lot of revenue anymore. That's like laughing at Netflix for loosing DVD rental market share to Blockbuster.

>Because of revenue?

See my comment above. Microsoft makes a fuck tonne of revenue from services no matter if your company doesn't buy Windows PCs. If they buy Macs, they'll still pay Microsoft subscription fees for Office 365, Outlook, OneDrive, Azure, LinkedIn, GitHub, etc. and soon Copilot AI stuff. All these are platform agnostic and way more profitable for them than selling more Windows licenses.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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As much as I like Linux, tides won’t be shifting for desktop to Linux. It will be Microsoft Windows for years to come

Yes agree. I started using Linux (Gentoo) as student 20 years ago to learn LKMs programming, and with my main Desktop being Windows currently, I give a new try to linux distros every year. I see Linux distros improve year after year, but they are still light years away from providing a good user experience. And even if I don't agree with many Windows 11 updates (like the cumulating number of services required to run…

How has had the entirety of the open source developer community not managed to make even a mediocre step forward in UI/UX of even the biggest Linux distro?l in 20 years? Hell, even Blender has made big strides and I thought that'd be impossible.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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What’s happening in somewhat poorer (BRICS, say) countries? Surely they’d be price sensitive enough not to pay for a Windows license if suddenly it has a (widespread) reputation for being less user friendly than Linux? (And this cohort would eventually become the majority of computer users over time… where would that leave Microsoft?)

It's such a "first world question" haha. Sorry, not trying to insult or criticize you, but this is genuinely a question only people in developed countries would ask.

People in poorer countries use pirated software. No, the don't need to be tech-savvy enough to know torrents to use pirated Windows. They don't need to know how to install an OS themselves.

20 years ago when I got my first PC, pirated windows was the norm here. You needed to be tech-savvy to know how to get a legal version. That is how developing countries work.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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This is basically an article by a guy angry that the UI for printers changed and predicting the end of the Windows empire based on that.

Accurate as every other week's predicting of Microsoft's impeding doom from users who don't like Windows in the past 30 years. - 1995. wah, wah! Windows 95 sucks, it's so bloated, MS-DOS was so much lighter, this will be the end of Microsoft. - 2001. wah, wah! Windows XP sucks, it's just a bloated Windows 2000 with Fisher Price coloring, this will be the end of Microsoft. .... - 2021. wah, wah! Windows 11 sucks, it's…

Except that too much wah wah will eventually tank a company - even the size of Microsoft

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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OS X works well especially with the hardware it was co-designed with. The only other option is an idealistic Linux, which still isn’t suitable for most people, so grandma moved from Windows to OSX, and never looked back.

> OS X works well especially with the hardware it was co-designed with. Only while they continue to support it. It may work well now but when they stop supporting it; it's proprietary, it's dead. When they fully move away from Intel based support, all those without the latest platform will be dead in the water. "Your not running the latest secure version of OSX! -- Your running an Intel? Sorry we don't support that".…

Case in point, if I was running Apple hardware from 2011~2014 I would be out of support for quite a few years already with massively outdated hardware, Apple puts their customers on a MUCH faster treadmill to keep upgrading often. But instead my _daily drivers_ 13 year old Thinkpad X220 and both my 10 year old 4th gen haswell i7 PCs keep trucking along. It's easy enough to fix, upgrade and have access to ALL current software. Not only that but one of those machines perform just as good if not better than a PS5, so I can still play any game I want at a respectable fidelity and performance. Also, not running Windows helps keep the bloat overhead at bay.

Re: Microsoft is driving users away

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My daft conspiracy theory I only slightly believe is that Microsoft is really fed up of maintaining Windows given the amount of technical debt it must have piled up and the limited revenue it produces given that paying for an OS isn't really a thing anyone wants to do anymore.

It sounds like a hell freezing over situation but maybe they'd even release their own Linux distro with compatibility tools only they'd ever be able to make with access to source code and engineer experience, and just push their web based versions of apps as much as possible.

Either way it seems like Linux will be profiting from the situation at the moment as a huge number of devices out there won't support Windows 11 but will perform perfectly fine with Linux. If Ubuntu / Redhat are smart they'll put the effort in to make transitioning as easy as possible and scoop up all the people who don't want to pay for a new device, and given the financial issues more and more people are having I don't think that's a small group.

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I’m guessing you must be referring to something niche? [parent post kindly edited to add examples] I’ve been using macs since 2012 and never had any setting change on me.

iOS has a “feature” where wifi and Bluetooth will switch itself back on after a set period of time if you use control center to turn it off. If you use settings it behaves as you would expect.

I’m aware of that feature, but using proper option in settings will not retain off position after next OS update, which is what OP was discussing. This happens every update, so I’m quite sure it’s by design.
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