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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by jp57 »

drawfloat wrote: post #199
jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

I think that's an unfair view of Vice. It got acclaim for its writing and attitude as an independent outlet and seemed to be a legitimately profitable business for the first decade or so. It was only when it decided to become a media giant early/mid 2010s (and ironically people started to like it less and less) that it started hoovering up cheap investor money.

It was only when it decided to become a media giant early/mid 2010s (and ironically people started to like it less and less) that it started hoovering up cheap investor money.

Yes. This is the LIRP part.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by hatch7 »

> To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform.

Such a sad regression for web applications. It seriously blows my mind supporters of open source software and "freedom" put up with this stupid shit.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by Marsymars »

simlevesque wrote: post #177
dpezet wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on s3" That is not zero effort. That is at least 1.2 efforts.

1.2 efforts which grants you residual revenue for life. Doing it is a no brainer, but some people lack one.

If you're getting residual revenue on a website, at some point someone's going to figure they could get a bit more residual revenue by adding some ad scripts, and pretty soon you've got an entire stack for serving ads that needs maintenance and ROI.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by Marsymars »

RankingMember wrote: post #198
Scoundreller wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

Ever more bummed about Fatwallet as Slickdeals continues to worsen with endless "sponsored deals" and censorship to force people to use their cashback and price tracking products.

One of the relatively rare times being Canadian pays off for online resources - RedFlagDeals.com is still doing well in their forums.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by Marsymars »

afterburner wrote: post #225
mooreds wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gave up a domain I used to own in the last year or so. It was a mildly popular site that had been around for about a decade. Within a few months someone else had snapped it up, created a site, used the same content (I assume from the Internet archive), and was using it to link farm. At least that's what I thought when I saw the new site with a few links that were not there before. I only discovered it because they…

I guess the lesson is, never give up a domain.

I had a domain in early smartphone days for a mobile app that served up some Canadian Broadcasting Corporation content. I eventually abandoned the app/domain and the CBC snapped it up - so that's about the best-case scenario.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by AbstractH24 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #32
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

> Yahoo Answers

OMG I haven't thought about the site in a number of years.

Used to be such a common thing to see in google search results.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by seizethegdgap »

billy99k wrote: post #401
input_sh wrote: post #251

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Yes, he left Vice over "creative differences" a couple of years before he founded Proud Boys. He wasn't as openly fascist while at Vice, though Vice definitely had to do some damage control over his comments.

"openly fascist" I disagree with you here. Proud boys was originally created out of the need to protect people from the likes of Antifa, which is a facist group. Most activists/hacktivists are fascists. If you don't agree with them, they cause issue, violence, and/or destruction until they get their way. Opposing groups like this does not make one fascist. Lots of what Gavin does is satire...which many people apparen…

| Proud boys was originally created out of the need to protect people from the likes of Antifa, which is a facist group.

Even Gavin McInness says you're wrong here.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-secret-history-o...

| McInnes, an avid boozer, has consistently maintained that he started the Proud Boys as an outlet for harmless fun: an Animal House-style drinking club for male buddies.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190209020443/https://bedfordan...

| "It’s a men’s organization, sort of like the Odd Fellows,” McInnes explained. “It mirrors the Knights of Columbus in many ways”–another organization that he belongs to. Only in this case,the Proud Boys subscribe to an ideology of “anti racial guilt,” that, to me, seemed to evoke white pride.

| Actually, McInnes wouldn’t describe it in explicit terms like “white pride” or “white supremacy.”

| “Our motto is that, we’re Western Chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world,” he said matter-of-factly. “That’s really the only tenet.”

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by cududa »

arsome wrote: post #419
cududa wrote: post #238

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But I don’t like video or podcasts. My brain doesn’t learn that way. I like reading

You weren't learning anything from Vice either.

Vice has done lots of investigative reporting. Two weeks ago I brought up one of their years old investigations in a discussion, went and found the article to brush up on the topic, my cousin and I spent about a half hour reading their articles on the topic, then we discussed. Yes, I did learn things from vice. I'm assuming your confusing Vice with a listicle producer or something. Your smug self-assured arrogant pessimism is showing.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by jp57 »

majani wrote: post #283
jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Publishers were squeezed out not by ZIRP but by ad networks, iframes in apps and influencers replacing them as the power users of social media

But publishers that were not profitable and didn't go out of business were ZIRPs.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by davydog187 »

pentagrama wrote: post #146
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

For example a site that I liked called The Outline stopped publishing content in 2020 and they leave the site online at least for now https://theoutline.com/

(One of the original devs for The Outline here) so happy that it is able to live on, frozen in time, although missing a lot of the features that made it cool.

A lot of the cool things we were doing at the outline were on the CMS side of things, its a shame we were never able to share it

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