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Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

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Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

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Post by gcanyon »

Anyone saying:

   - it’s only short videos
   - it’s not fully consistent
   - it is hard to direct to get what you want
…is looking at where it is now, and failing to consider where it will be in literally a year or two.

Five years from now parents will be mashing up Winnie the Pooh and Avatar, starring their children, in immersive 3D, for the Apple Vision Pro 4 or the Quest 7.

Tyler Perry is making a wise choice.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#102

Post by nytesky »

throwaway118899 wrote: post #88

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Movie industry is $77B, television is $300B, and video games are $250B.

Movies are likely shrinking since their revenue was theaters and movie sales, and we all are moving to subscription which priorities TV series and short form videos on TikTox.

Scott G was guffawing at the Oscar kerfuffle because movies dont matter anymore and it’s a shrinking industry. To some degree he may be right.

So independent of AI, movies are in for a rough ride. Which makes me sad, I love the arc of a movie in an engrossing 2-3 hr chunk, and usually much more interesting cinematography and better production value over tv. But I also like manual transmissions and writing letters, so I accept I’m a dinosaur on many fronts.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#104

Post by TheOtherHobbes »

sumtechguy wrote: post #99
MichaelZuo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was already the case for human made art before? The vast vast majority of 'art' online, including youtube videos, wasn't even worth spending a few seconds looking at in 2021. So we go from 98% not worth looking at to 99.9% not worth looking at, or whatever the figure is.

Most of what is made is not that good. For every shawshank redemption we have 20 'leonard part 6' movies or worse. People just do not realize how much content there is out there in the big budget space. In the low budget space that ratio is even worse. Most of it is not good. We are going to see the volume of low effort items cranked to 11.

And the Shawshank Redemption movies will stop being made. Or if they are being made, they will be ignored.

I read a blog today and it was high-quality long form tech journalism - something I haven't seen for a long time, tucked away on a no-mark site in a far corner of the Internet.

I didn't agree with all of the content, but it was so good to see something written at that level. 50 years ago it would have been normal for tech publishing. Today most tech journalism is gossip and clickbait. It's not thoughtful and referenced long form analysis of where the industry may be heading, written with original critical insights.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#105

Post by mdale »

bhpm wrote: post #96
MatekCopatek wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone not from the USA, what's a culture war movie? Are you talking about America being the good guy in all the movies? Or the thing where there are more black and gay characters now and conservative people don't like it? More importantly though - why would AI change the prevalent ideology in movies? Won't the same people who already make movies keep making them, just using AI?

“Culture War” is a dog whistle for any movie that includes women, gays, or blacks. Notice the comment you’re replying to was written by a throwaway account. There is no culture war in America. There is only a group of people who feel threatened by the existence of content that isn’t targeted squarely at them. There is only a group of people who are terrified that, if they aren’t the majority voice in absolutely every…

Tolerance for everything but intolerance?

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#106

Post by throwawaaarrgh »

gcanyon wrote: post #101

Anyone saying: - it’s only short videos - it’s not fully consistent - it is hard to direct to get what you want …is looking at where it is now, and failing to consider where it will be in literally a year or two. Five years from now parents will be mashing up Winnie the Pooh and Avatar, starring their children, in immersive 3D, for the Apple Vision Pro 4 or the Quest 7. Tyler Perry is making a wise choice.

The only parts of movies or TV that this will be useful for is non-character-driven filler that doesn't move the plot along. It will be great for things like action scenes and car chases, or staring wistfully at the ocean. But they still need actors and a story, and to tie those together seamlessly with whatever is generated. We're very far away from doing that in a way that will look or feel good.

Special effects are nothing new. But we all know special effects don't make a good movie.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#107

Post by paxys »

John23832 wrote: post #44

People make fun of this because it's Tyler Perry, but go to Atlanta and see how many people he employs. Both directly and indirectly. All the major tech companies are laying off due to their ambitions/utilizations of AI. This is a major employer in a major city seeing the writing on the wall.

> All the major tech companies are laying off due to their ambitions/utilizations of AI.

Citation needed.

Tech companies are having layoffs because they spent the last decade under the assumption that money was free and profits were optional. Now they are hitting reality and investors/shareholders are demanding returns. AI has nothing to do with it. Heck the wave of layoffs started well before ChatGPT even launched. If anything AI is actually fueling another bubble and extending the charade. Look at the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people that suddenly work "in AI" now.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#108

Post by Delumine »

He's a hypocrite, he says he's scared of the impact of the industry. But he IS the industry. He's gonna be putting set designers, sound stagers, et al out of work if he opts to use AI.

AI is just going to make the rich... richer. We do need some protections in place.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#109

Post by endisneigh »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #100
endisneigh wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We will have to agree to disagree. The real world is about solving actual problems, not solving arbitrary “creative” tasks. And even if it were, go look at salaries in “creative” professions vs engineering.

"Actual problems" like crypto scams, NFTs, and both mainstream and "new" manipulations of value tokens that don't even exist? Or an industry like health insurance, which doesn't even need to exist? As for salaries - you can be a hopelessly mediocre engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc, and still earn good money. You can even be a bad professional who is actively incompetent and still earn good money. The fact that salaries…

Your examples are strange. Why do you think crypto or NFTs are actual problems I was referring to?

Why shouldn’t health insurance exist? Most lawyers make terrible money. Doctors don’t make a lot of money in most countries.

Re: Tyler Perry Puts $800M Studio Expansion on Hold After Seeing OpenAI's Sora

#110

Post by rsynnott »

mdale wrote: post #105
bhpm wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Culture War” is a dog whistle for any movie that includes women, gays, or blacks. Notice the comment you’re replying to was written by a throwaway account. There is no culture war in America. There is only a group of people who feel threatened by the existence of content that isn’t targeted squarely at them. There is only a group of people who are terrified that, if they aren’t the majority voice in absolutely every…

Tolerance for everything but intolerance?

Congratulations, you have rediscovered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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