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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by victorbjorklund »

15457345234 wrote: post #94
dmix wrote: post #89

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It's not that expensive to host old blog posts and they already host videos on YouTube... What's expensive in those operations is supporting new content and growth. Now they can wind it down and establish a fixed legacy system and eventually run it on autopilot with a small team in support roles.

People just try and hack it constantly - as in, hundreds of automated hacking attempts per day, and when they succeed, they won't make obvious changes, they'll tweak things gently in a malignant way that won't be noticed for some time.

Put everything as a static site on S3 with cloudflare in front. Cant really hack that (unless you fuck up with S3 configs or if AWS itself is hacked)

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

DamnableNook wrote: post #207
coffeebeqn wrote: post #153

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I remember when Gavin McInness was still making content for them. Their strength was always to have stories and bits that no where else would. Not sure how much they strayed from that in the last 5-10 years but they almost never showed up on my radar anymore

Gavin McInness? Founder of the Proud Boys, Gavin McInness?

Why ask questions you already know the answer to

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by majani »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #33
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #28

They have 18,000,000 subscribers on YouTube... how can they not have enough money to host a website and pay some people to create content?... RIP Epicly Later'd?

YouTube payouts have hit rock bottom lately - which has, notably, been part of the reason for so many creator retirements. Ironic, considering the ad blocker ban was supposed to fix this.

Once YouTube started monetizing videos that weren't in the partner program it was always going to be downhill from there. The supply of ad-eligible videos probably doubled overnight

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by majani »

Bold-ish prediction: by 2040 it will only be individual influencers producing news. Most newsroom outlets are zombies at this point, being kept alive by something outside of their ad revenue

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by modernerd »

geor9e wrote: post #59

Full text: Dear Vice Team, As we navigate the ever-evolving business landscape, we need to adapt and best align our strategies to be more competitive in the long term. After careful consideration and discussion with the board, we have decided to make some fundamental changes to our strategic vision at Vice. We create and produce outstanding original content true to the Vice brand. However, it is no longer cost-effect…

So many words to say:

"Vice will stop publishing on vice.com, sell Refinery 29, reduce our workforce, and publish on other platforms instead."

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Post by lodovic »

deelowe wrote: post #165
makeitdouble wrote: post #123

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You still have to maintain the domain, and stay on the hook if the site gets overtaken/hacked/defaced.

I'm sure there's liability, copyright, and trademark concerns as well.

If they would want to monetise their content in the future, they must keep it private before it's gobbled up by search engines and AI and becomes public domain.

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Post by dajtxx »

xxs wrote: post #268
fjfkjfdljkfd wrote: post #223

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Youtube is pushing Tik Tok style "shorts" pretty hard. If you ever accidently click on one, the UI makes it very hard to find your way back, and easy just to sit and watch a bunch of 15-second clips. Even the long-form content is a minefield. The line between educational, informative long-form content (Clickspring, Tech Ingredients, Ox Tools, Matthias Wendel, Alan Millyard, etc) and "lifestyle entertainment" (Matt Ar…

the best part is to block all of that short jazz with a firefox extension (also don't use youtube logged in) > is surprisingly fine (AvE, Tavarish, Rainman Ray, etc), a Where would you place "This Old Tony" in that regard?

I’m not sure where TOT sits. He’s not particularly ‘how to do it’ like mrpete222 or maybe Presso, but he’s not trivial dumb stuff either. He’s entertaining and I think YT would be worse without him.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by latexr »

> Regrettably, this means that we will be reducing our workforce, eliminating several hundred positions.

> […]

> Together, I am confident that we will overcome any challenges and achieve our shared goals.

By firing several hundred people, you just created new challenges for them. Their goal now is to find a new source of income to pay rent and eat.

Are you doing anything to mitigate that, or does the “together” only apply for people who help you on your goals? What exactly are this shared unspecified goals you’ll all overcome?

Pretty dry and soulless letter. Perhaps next time consider having one of the good writers go over it.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by looping8 »

slantedview wrote: post #138
paxys wrote: post #29

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Who said they are not letting the site stay online?

It wasn't in this post, but it was a separate rumor that the site would be deleted. This sounds crazy, but is exactly what other digital publications have done recently.

Any examples? I don't remember any news about this, although the only publication I can remember with major changes recently is Pitchfork.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by pjc50 »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #249
rafark wrote: post #192

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I made a similar comment a few weeks ago on another post about another site shutting down. It’s so sad how the internet has less and less “independent” sites and instead more people and organizations are just relying on the big names (YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Shopify, Reddit, etc). Creating and hosting a website has never been easier and cheaper. Yet for some reason the big companies are dominating more an…

> Creating and hosting a website has never been easier and cheaper. I wish that were true. The desktop site editors (Frontpage, Dreamweaver) are long dead. There are barriers to My First PHP Site that just weren’t there before: you can’t put up a site without https (unless you want scary browser warnings and no Google coverage), you can’t send mail without a whole bunch of complex server headers and expect it to be d…

Wordpress is kind of forever. I was helping someone with a decade-old managed wordpress a little while ago; it required updating plugins and ditching a few of the old ones, but otherwise a relatively simple process.

> But no one will find it.

The spam problem. This destroyed USENET, and has now destroyed blogs. People retreat to the half-dozen sites that have half-effective spam fighting. Twitter has abandoned spam fighting and is slowly sinking as a result.

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