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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by mofosyne »

grepfru_it wrote: post #222
ewalk153 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could the internet archive offer this as a paid service? For a reasonable fee, we'll archive your site, and give you back a copy of the assets you can turnkey host on the original domain for cheap with a static hosting solution (s3, cloudflare, etc). Everybody wins

https://archivebox.io/

That works too, but there is something to be said about a turn key solution friendly to corporations who are willing to just throw some money to make a problem go away. Plus archive will get a bit of extra money for the Wayback machine!

Just pay some donation, redirect your DNS to the way back machine and bingo.

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Post by tanepiper »

Back in the early days, Vice had some really good content - I'll always remember Shane Smith's trip on the Siberian railway on his trip to North Korea. It's a shame the management have decided on the scorched earth approach here.

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Post by jfoster »

ewalk153 wrote: post #85
naet wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did some work for a design agency that got bought by Twitter.... we basically converted all their different sites to full static and put them on ice. It would have been expensive to keep hosting how they had been, but with everything flattened to static it's super cheap to keep up (although no publishing new stuff without some by hand work or restoring the old servers). All the good articles and design samples stay…

Could the internet archive offer this as a paid service? For a reasonable fee, we'll archive your site, and give you back a copy of the assets you can turnkey host on the original domain for cheap with a static hosting solution (s3, cloudflare, etc). Everybody wins

Could they (or a for-profit company) bid on it? Do liquidators in the US have to consider any offer, even if it was unsolicited? Does it vary from state to state?

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Post by simlevesque »

krisoft wrote: post #217
simlevesque wrote: post #177

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1.2 efforts which grants you residual revenue for life. Doing it is a no brainer, but some people lack one.

It can be also that some decision makers feel it is too much hassle. Or they don’t even know it is an option. For you and me doing this would be probably an afternoon’s work? (Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less) For someone less technologically inclined it could be seen as a big project. They need to find someone capable of doing it, they need to ask for a quote, they need to supervise the project otherwise the contr…

I firmly believe that if they think their only option is to shut down, they aren't fit to do their job. If they don't understand how the internet works they should let someone who does do the work.

If you are a business built on top of the web you need someone who's tech savvy in-house.

Maybe they deserve their faith. But it's sad that the next generation will miss this insightful content because they gave up.

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Post by adfm »

truemotive wrote: post #235

I was watching Dark Side of the Ring on Vice TV the other day (a vice of mine by chance), and despite the fact that their eponymous block bold letter design language was intact during the promo commercials for upcoming shows, it was clearly all for Vice-adjacent syndicated TV shows that felt more at home on HGTV or worse. I was pretty shocked and figured they just suffered the same fate of The Learning Channel, may i…

The current top story on vice.com, “Inside the Christian Nationalist Church Where Proud Boys Go to be Baptized,” is a bit thick.

“Meaner, faster, and more dynamic.” Ha!

David Carr had their number off the bat: https://youtu.be/iLmkec_4Rfo?si=ZlXSnFajg81RNcRM

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Post by torginus »

arsome wrote: post #183
jacurtis wrote: post #180

Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

I feel like the recent AI advancements will ruin that as well - YT will find a way to pull a Quora - extract all that passionately made content, whitelabel it, and sell it back to you.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by Moru »

dirtybirdnj wrote: post #129
naet wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did some work for a design agency that got bought by Twitter.... we basically converted all their different sites to full static and put them on ice. It would have been expensive to keep hosting how they had been, but with everything flattened to static it's super cheap to keep up (although no publishing new stuff without some by hand work or restoring the old servers). All the good articles and design samples stay…

> we basically converted all their different sites to full static and put them on ice. It would have been expensive to keep hosting how they had been, but with everything flattened to static it's super cheap to keep up I got absolutely tarred and feathered at an agency for suggesting this strategy and I just want to say thank you for validating what I wanted to do.

Mabe they weren't particularly pride in what they accomplished over the years and wanted it forgotten? :-)

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

rafark wrote: post #192
jacurtis wrote: post #180

Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

I made a similar comment a few weeks ago on another post about another site shutting down. It’s so sad how the internet has less and less “independent” sites and instead more people and organizations are just relying on the big names (YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Shopify, Reddit, etc). Creating and hosting a website has never been easier and cheaper. Yet for some reason the big companies are dominating more an…

> Creating and hosting a website has never been easier and cheaper.

I wish that were true. The desktop site editors (Frontpage, Dreamweaver) are long dead. There are barriers to My First PHP Site that just weren’t there before: you can’t put up a site without https (unless you want scary browser warnings and no Google coverage), you can’t send mail without a whole bunch of complex server headers and expect it to be delivered, you can’t make a simple mistake in your code without the server being compromised by constantly scanning nefarious bots. And that’s even before you get on to the insane complexity of the frontend tech and tooling if you want to make anything look vaguely contemporary.

Discovery is broken - check out the story posted here the other day about Google ranking SEO review churn above independent sites. Facebook and Twitter will randomly bury your promo work because they don’t like the links in it for some reason. And if your independent site is in the same area as a VC-funded one, you’ll be buried by the sheer weight of their marketing paid by the free VC money.

You can still build a site with Wordpress, Squarespace and Wix. It won’t do much but it’ll exist. But no one will find it.

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Post by pndy »

The28thDuck wrote: post #6

They ran out of dangerous places to do designer drugs. In all honesty, Vice was a cool outlet for out-there stories for teens and adults alike. Shame it’s shutting down but then again I never supported it.

> They ran out of dangerous places to do designer drugs.

Yesterday on mastodon I saw a link to the vice piece about mushrooms: "Magic Mushroom Edibles: Everything to Know, from Chocolates to Drops". Their situation is dire indeed /s

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