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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by astrange »

dotty- wrote: post #32
xyst wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

Is cryptocurrency busted? Sure, it didn't replace the global monetary system, but it seems to be a proven technology now. And sure, it had its crashes, but BTC is up 112% over 1Y, and lots of cryptos have legitimate payment purposes.

> but BTC is up 112% over 1Y

What's the risk-adjusted return and correlation with other securities? Those are both more important than share price.

Since it doesn't pay dividends in USD, its USD value is only achieved if you go around convincing everyone else to stop selling it so that you can sell it. Which I think conflicts with it being used for payments.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by a1o »

urbandw311er wrote: post #11

I am really sorry to whinge but is there any way at all to avoid posting links to tweets? Visiting twitter is such a horrible soul destroying experience. I can’t work out how to full screen the video if it’s even possible. The resolution on the video is too poor for me to be able to read the code. There are ads and troll comments everywhere. It seems to want me to create an account. It’s just horrific. Is there reall…

I agree, I am really happy with blog posts, articles and pdfs but everytime there is a Twitter or YouTube post I just die inside

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by QuantumGood »

eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

I'm frankly amazed its been tried/tested as much as it has. Sure, it's amazing compared to where it used to be, very facile with language, but it's really very bad a lot of the time at present, especially compared to an employee who's supposed to know something about what is being worked on. Skillful users can get benefit from it in narrow situations, but it really needs to improve a lot.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by adultorata »

mjr00 wrote: post #33
dotty- wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is cryptocurrency busted? Sure, it didn't replace the global monetary system, but it seems to be a proven technology now. And sure, it had its crashes, but BTC is up 112% over 1Y, and lots of cryptos have legitimate payment purposes.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Good luck sending 10 BTC worth of USD from a US bank to China or Russia, or ANY bank without raising eyebrows and getting your bank account locked/frozen

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by [deleted] »

tomatohs wrote: post #44
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

We're building an AI Agent that can perform manual testing on feature branches [1]. I can tell you, it works, and it's going to get better, and it's going to happen fast. It's not hard at all for an AI to read text on the screen and click it. What's amazing is the social impact this has - often people don't believe it's real. It feels like when I had to explain to my parents that in my online multiplayer game, that t…

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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by karmasimida »

jameshart wrote: post #59
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

It's actually worse than that. Why do we need web apps or iOS apps? They're just task specific computer interfaces. It's possible that this kind of AI tech eliminates the need for task specific computer interfaces at all. You don't need to tell the LLM to code up a TODO list app so you can sell it in the App Store. The user doesn't even need to tell an LLM to make them a TODO list app. Given an LLM that can persist a…

Task interface is for human though, when LLM goes wrong, you can intervene. But I agree, it will be less critical moving forward.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by cjbprime »

gerdesj wrote: post #31
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

Well, you say we underestimate but are you sure you are not the "underestimater"? Amongst other things, one of the tasks I tried to put ChatGPT to was writing scripts in a not so popular dialect of a very popular language: PowerCLI (PowerShell). Gemini is even worse! The issue is of course the relative lack of PowerCLI vs the huge body of PowerShell generic stuff. Hallucinations include invented function parameters a…

> These things are "only" next token/word guessers.

This is precisely the kind of vacuous "this is technology, I know technology, this is simple" hubristic underestimation that's being called out.

There is no upper bound to the intelligence of a "next token/word guesser". You can end up incorporating an entire world model to your predictions to improve their accuracy, and arguably this has already happened, to a currently-unreliable and basic level. It is possible that no technological advances are required to reach better than human intelligence from this point -- only more compute, bigger models and datasets, and (therefore) better next-token predictions.

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Post by seba_dos1 »

xyst wrote: post #27
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

Just like cryptocurrencies, transformer models have their valid use-cases, but are being so massively overhyped and oversold that it prompts natural resistance and spoils the whole thing. The result is that whenever someone talks about "AI" (or "crypto"), it's just safest to assume that they have no idea what they're talking about and want to sell it to you because more people getting hyped is how they get their investment back.

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Post by plorkyeran »

hooverd wrote: post #16
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #13

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>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s

This is a problem that a lot of fields have had (e.g. hand-crafted furniture). Technological advances killed the market for juniors but demand for seniors remained. In the short term it's completely fine, but then a few decades later there's not enough new seniors to match demand.

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Post by seba_dos1 »

dotty- wrote: post #52
skydhash wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network AKA micro transactions in games.

No, because micro transactions in games is a centralized system involving zero cryptography, usually powered by a centralized database by the game developer. Bitcoin is decentralized.

> Bitcoin is decentralized.

Barely, if at all. Technically it can be decentralized, but Bitcoin's design promotes centralization, and the result is that currently Bitcoin can be controlled by either two entities (AntPool and Foundry USA) or three (one of the former ones plus F2Pool and ViaBTC) - and it's not going to get better.

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