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Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

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I'm just curious how we as a society manage the uptime of such a critical service? Do we have laws or enforcement in place to regulate / enforce how well basic cellular service (at least the emergency tier) must work in the US? Just imagining the dropped emergency calls today, etc? (Genuine question)

You should be able to connect to a different network (e.g. Verizon) and make a 911 call even without a plan. You won't be authenticated to the network for data, but 911 is supposed to still work.

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#92

I'm just curious how we as a society manage the uptime of such a critical service? Do we have laws or enforcement in place to regulate / enforce how well basic cellular service (at least the emergency tier) must work in the US? Just imagining the dropped emergency calls today, etc? (Genuine question)

Landlines still work, and it's not too expensive to keep it as a redundancy.

Last time I had a real landline, it was flakier than cell service. The companies don't really maintain them

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#93

Seeing "SOS" only on iPhone currently. I got worried something had gone wrong with auto-bill pay since I only noticed after I was driving. It's interesting how naked I feel without access to the internet. I reach for it way more often than I would have ever guessed, something you only notice when it's not there. Last March my area saw large wind storms that knocked out power for almost a week (I'm not in a rural area…

Yes I've felt the same way. I feel like we have an instinctual need for social connection that we've filled with internet. Luckily, we do still have meat-space friends and family.

Yeah, that was a big reason I went to stay with my parents/family. I felt super isolated from my friends (local and remote) when I couldn't participate in group chats/communicate. Also I just kept picking up my phone to look up something or check on something only to re-remember I couldn't do anything. I had podcasts and audiobooks on my phone which helped but the isolation was a weird feeling I hadn't felt before. After I thought about it I realized it had probably been a decade or more since I had been completely without internet for more than a few minutes. It was odd...

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Downdetector's front page[0] seems to indicate issues with other carriers as well - Verizon and TMobile. There are are several other providers showing on the front page, but I think a lot of them are MVNOs on the big three networks. [0] https://downdetector.com/

Verizon confirmed they have no outage. Seems to be an issue contacting ATT subscribers

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#96
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t have anything positive to add, except noting that FirstNet is also down. I’m sure there’s a lot of chaos for emergency responders right now :/

If FirstNet is down that would mean a lot more is down than should be. FirstNet can operate on lower range radio, no?

It can (FirstNet's lower 700mhz spectrum), but AT&T uses the same backbone and infrastructure and towers for large chunks of their and FirstNet's network.

(charitably) - FirstNet is mostly now just a type of billing plan and priority level, on AT&T's network.

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#97

NOAA is reporting R3 activity. Solar flare outage seems likely

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/news/view/522/20240222-t...

We did have Two Class X flares from sunspot 3590 but they did not result in a coronal mass ejection.

There was a CME from another sunspot not visible but it is not aimed at the earth.

Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

#98

Seeing "SOS" only on iPhone currently. I got worried something had gone wrong with auto-bill pay since I only noticed after I was driving. It's interesting how naked I feel without access to the internet. I reach for it way more often than I would have ever guessed, something you only notice when it's not there. Last March my area saw large wind storms that knocked out power for almost a week (I'm not in a rural area…

Portland, is that you? This happened to us with the recent storms a month or two back, some places didn't have power restored for 2 weeks+

Portland checking in. Those storms were gnarly and there was carnage all around us. Luckily we maintained power and internet. We have 11 month old twins and a three year old so 10 days without childcare or help was its own challenge.

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#99
post #74

Downdetector's front page[0] seems to indicate issues with other carriers as well - Verizon and TMobile. There are are several other providers showing on the front page, but I think a lot of them are MVNOs on the big three networks. [0] https://downdetector.com/

I wonder if the smaller number of reports for Verizon and T-Mobile is from people on those carriers trying to call or text someone at AT&T

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#100

I wonder if this is a cyber incident. Curious if any telecom folks know what the most likely explanation for an event like this would be, and what telltale signs/symptoms might first indicate this was caused by something nefarious.

Due to the gross incompetence these companies operate at, it's too hard to tell the difference.

Unfortunately, unlike cyber security, there are no off the shelf products that are being sold to help companies with general incompetence.
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