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Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

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#51

My brother sitting next to me with an AT&T Pixel 7 has no service. Me with a Pixel 7 Pro (dev preview android) on the same plan: not affected. Strange.

Similar here - my wife's Motorola is fine but my Pixel 6 has no service (same plan).

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#53
post #6

This is so odd. I have two phones with AT&T currently sitting right next to each other. One has service, the other is in SOS mode.

Some of our staff are reporting similar where their partner's phone has service and their's doesn't. Both on same AT&T family plan. So the radio bands may play into it although I would think with latest iPhones, they can use any of the bands from AT&T although I could be wrong.

Yep: my partner's iPhone has service while my Pixel doesn't, both on same plan.

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#55
I'm just curious how we as a society manage the uptime of such a critical service? Do we have laws or enforcement in place to regulate / enforce how well basic cellular service (at least the emergency tier) must work in the US?

Just imagining the dropped emergency calls today, etc?

(Genuine question)

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#56
post #25

This reminds me of the recent discussion on status pages. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39099980 They need to be accurate. At&t status claims everything is fine. My wireless service is down. Down detector has tens of thousands of reports, so clearly everything is not fine.

Status pages are basically useless if they’re public facing. Either they automatically update based on automatic tests (like some of the Internet backbone health tests) or they’re manually updated. If they’re automatic, they’re almost always internal and not public. If they’re manual, they’re almost always delayed and not updated until after the outage is posted to HN anyway.

The other problem with status pages is depending on what happened it may not be possible to update the status page anyway. You really need a third party to have a useful status page.

Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

#58

My brother sitting next to me with an AT&T Pixel 7 has no service. Me with a Pixel 7 Pro (dev preview android) on the same plan: not affected. Strange.

i was showing none with iphone 14, wife had like 2 bars with her iphone 11. i wonder if its just part of the newer infrastructure.

My wife has 12 and nothing, I have 14 and am fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

#59

NOAA is reporting R3 activity. Solar flare outage seems likely

A solar flare targetted at ATT Infra only? Unlikely.

Could be a hack Could be a single point of failure Could be a config change that borked the system

Could be other things that make more sense we will have to wait for more info.

Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users

#60
Take this with a very fine grain of salt, but I read on a forum elsewhere that it was Cisco infrastructure related.

Do I believe that? No clue. I believe it more than people speculating the timing corresponds with the solar flare or nation state taking it out.

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