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Yeah! If we make it illegal, then people will stop breaking the laws. That is how it works, right?
Maybe we could try enforcing those laws with no mercy given to the "wayward teens who don't know any better" (they do.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_...
Or, enforce existing laws against theft ... "Ban insecure vehicles" is chasing the technology of locks; there's always another circumvention.
Companies that put out egregiously vulnerable vehicles should be held liable, though.
Sooo they have been stealing Infiniti's from my area recently with relative ease allegedly by using a Bluetooth obd2 reader connected to an android tablet running a pirated copy of some Nissan service tech software. Nobody from any of the Infiniti groups is 100% certain how they are doing it, but the best theory out there is above. Just the other night, a crew of dudes stole 3 Q50’s from my neighborhood with relative…
The answer is simple, we need to ban android tablets. /s
A brand new $60,000 car shouldn’t be so simple to swipe.
They probably spent less time stealing my neighbors car than he did waiting on the credit check to buy the car lol… it’s crazy these days with cars.
and why can't they go back to the old solutions that didn't have these problems? its just such a stupid thing to watch
IF these fancy keys that let you start your car without inserting anything cause your car to become extremely vulnerable THEN maybe its a bad idea, jesus christ
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Companies that put out egregiously vulnerable vehicles should be held liable, though.
As long as they are regulatory compliant, there should absolutely not be any liability. If regulations are not updated fast enough maybe people responsible for that should be removed from office or punished.
No; willfull negligence is something that should engender liability.
Or, enforce existing laws against theft ... "Ban insecure vehicles" is chasing the technology of locks; there's always another circumvention.
This is true in absolute terms but over simplified because it glosses over the differences in scale. We require cars to have seatbelts because even though people still die in crashes, it’s a statistically certainty that many fewer die when seatbelts are used. Setting minimum standards is a critical function of governments in maintaining healthy markets because it prevents cheating from being cost effective. If you ma…
Yeah people, nothing can have perfect security. That's a given anyway. I think the point is that if you can steal it with a $250 device SDR device, the car's level of security is the issue not the device and that should be acknowledged by their government before they ban something that will do nothing except put these things in the hands of only the bigger crime groups. These things likely wouldn't be hard to manufacture by hand if these criminals wanted to get a hold of them.
Sooo they have been stealing Infiniti's from my area recently with relative ease allegedly by using a Bluetooth obd2 reader connected to an android tablet running a pirated copy of some Nissan service tech software. Nobody from any of the Infiniti groups is 100% certain how they are doing it, but the best theory out there is above. Just the other night, a crew of dudes stole 3 Q50’s from my neighborhood with relative…
Obviously, we want owners to have full access to their car's CANBUS. So the question is: how should the OBD-2 plug (or wiring) be protected?
https://www.amazon.com/Tune-Saver-OBDII-OBD2-Lock/dp/B0BRF5D...
Or, enforce existing laws against theft ... "Ban insecure vehicles" is chasing the technology of locks; there's always another circumvention.
the "there are always bugs" refrain is horribly corrosive - it doesn't absolve the victim in any sense.