Just make sure any workloads you place on Hetzner are treated as spot instances and outputs are immediately sent off network. The reliability of their systems and customer support is very low. Hetzner is a 5-star or 1-star company. Are you willing to risk your business on the flip of a coin? My own experience [2] was definitely a 1-star.
Hetzner GPU Server
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Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I meant if they have other GPUs normally available in the server auction. As far as I understand the servers in the server auction are mostly custom built ones for customers and once they stop renting them they land on the server auction for others to rent. The one with the RTX 4000 seems to be a standardized line of products.
They briefly had GPU servers before. I believe they stopped when crypto messed up the gpu prices and supply. That's why you're seeing them in the auction now. But they usually go quick. This might change now since they have a brand new offering. The old GPUs would have very litle memory by the way. Not ideal for AI.
They stopped because they had a high percentage of abuse with Morons mining crypto
Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#83It's a good price at ~0.30$/hour comparing to Paperspace's RTX 4000 with 30GB RAM at ~0.56$/hour. Are there many other providers for such environments?
vast.ai, runpod.io, tensordock.com, ... I have just ordered a GEX44 from Hetzner. :-)
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#84Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…
Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page. I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport cop…
Hetzner is pretty hostile towards foreigners.
And don't you dare suggest in their forum that foreign tech is better than German, instaban.
Fuck Hetzner
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#85Does every European tech company have some kind of committe that ensures their customer facing website looks like a decrepit ASP page from 2004? I mean what explains this? It's a billion dollar corporation and I am having serious reservations about whether I would even enter my credit card info on this site.
It's true.
And it breaks on mobile when you use the menu.
Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the simplest is that data center energy pricing is just simply different from residential energy, because they often get wholesale (plus small markup) rather than residential rates.
In the winter time, I get free heat from my server. In the summer, I have to pay to run an AC to get it out of the envelope.
Gotta run some ducting for that server!
Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#87Not really related to their GPU offering but Hetzner is such a great company. I have a dedicated server I rented where I host all of my side projects. For the same price as one shitty VPS I get 8 cores, 64GB ram and a disk of 240GB or something like that. Just incredible, response times are incredibly low and there is no cap on data. The few times I have contacted support they've been great. The only times I have exp…
Signed up from an Asian country and during signup they asked me to upload a passport copy page. I thought that was weird (I mean no other cloud provider asked for it but okay). I uploaded anyway because I thought it’s in EU so they at least have better privacy laws so they may end up deleting it later from their systems but I immediately got rejected. Not sure why no reason specified. So now they have my passport cop…
I had a similar experience very recently (albeit within Europe). Did you try their manual verification process? It was available to me after two failed automatic attempts, and it basically had me send an email to Hetzner support asking if they needed any more information. I got approved manually the very next morning.
Maybe not the most customer-friendly experience, but I figure half an hour of signup weirdness is okay for a solid after-signup service in the long term, especially as that half an hour is likely to deter a decent chunk of fraud.
Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#88Is Nvidia RTX 4000 solid for training? Alternatively this card seems listed for around $1800 so at $180/month on Hetzner, it may be even cheaper to buy it, depending on the expected usage.
Are you going to be training constantly?
TBH renting a big GPU (A100 or better) and getting the run over with quick is usually best. VRAM is everything.
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#89The price of a brand new Dell precision PC with a core i9 13900 CPU (24 cores), 64 GB RAM and 2X2TB NVMe is probably around 2.5k$. It costs tens of Euros per month in electricity to run this PC. The hardware is good to go for some 3 years, before running into various issues (newer CPUs becoming much more power efficient, firmware updates getting less and less frequent etc). Consider also the cost of components failur…
It's definitely weird that cloud costs which is supposed to be commoditized is differing by 2 orders of magnitude. Hetzner/OVH seemed to have solved the hard part of making the service cheaper but just can't solve the easier task of making the platform usable. Why do I need to upload documents for verification. Why can't I try server for 2 hours right after signing up for the service.
You can thank crypto for ruining the internet for us.
Re: Hetzner GPU Server
#90Does every European tech company have some kind of committe that ensures their customer facing website looks like a decrepit ASP page from 2004? I mean what explains this? It's a billion dollar corporation and I am having serious reservations about whether I would even enter my credit card info on this site.
Hetzner's site looks fine to me. Highly readable and to the point unlike modern web shit where you have to scroll through 5 miles of marketing animatinos.