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Findaway's new terms of service are unacceptable

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Re: Findaway's new terms of service are unacceptable

#81
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the author, I cannot recommend reading this tale. I must say, however, that the reviews are an art form in and of themselves and will reward ten minutes of your time. That review you cited was clearly written by someone who felt personally attacked. I have theories.

Poettering got drunk and read it?

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Re: Findaway's new terms of service are unacceptable

#82

I'm not a lawyer but the Voices terms from ~2017 [1] seem similar. It feels like the Spotify terms are clearer (e.g., what does "to use" really mean?). > [...] Voices shall be free to use or disseminate such Content for the purpose of promoting the audio recordings of its works either by Voices, its affiliates, or its partners, and you grant Voices an irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use,…

the old TOS limit the usage to a well-defined purpose (promotion) do not claim the rights to modify and do not make you waive your moral rights to your work

Re: Findaway's new terms of service are unacceptable

#83
post #75

Why would they include this? `you also agree to waive, and not to enforce, any “moral rights” or equivalent rights, such as your right to object to derogatory treatment of such User Content`

Yeah that is the worst line. It proves their motives are bad. Moral rights should never be taken, and indeed, cannot be given away in a contract in many countries.

Re: Findaway's new terms of service are unacceptable

#84
post #82

I'm not a lawyer but the Voices terms from ~2017 [1] seem similar. It feels like the Spotify terms are clearer (e.g., what does "to use" really mean?). > [...] Voices shall be free to use or disseminate such Content for the purpose of promoting the audio recordings of its works either by Voices, its affiliates, or its partners, and you grant Voices an irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use,…

the old TOS limit the usage to a well-defined purpose (promotion) do not claim the rights to modify and do not make you waive your moral rights to your work

I don't think so, the comma usage seems to isolate the promotional use from the rest.

Part one: Voices shall be free to use or disseminate such Content for the purpose of promoting the audio recordings of its works either by Voices, its affiliates, or its partners,

Part two: and you grant Voices an irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use, reproduce, distribute, transmit, display, distribute, and market such Content (including in digital form). You represent and warrant that you have proper authorization for the worldwide transfer and processing among Voices, its affiliates, partners, and third-party providers of any information that you may provide on the Site.

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