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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by declann »

jncfhnb wrote: post #335
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

There are more oppositional figures, they’re simply barred from entry because it’s not a real democracy. Russia is not gaining noteworthy traction. Avdiivka is a tiny pointless place aside from the fact that Russia is willing to impale itself at horrible odds to achieve any victory it can for optics.

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by jnsaff2 »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #946
verteu wrote: post #861

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously the "embezzlement" was a sham charge by the Kremlin: > The court did not explain why the trial would be held in prison and failed to explain how witnesses, journalists or Navalny’s defence team could attend the heavily restricted facility. > Navalny is currently serving a two-and-a-half-year sentence on trumped-up, politically-motivated charges, which the European Court of Human Rights has described as “arb…

Wether that's true or not (given his ideological leanings there would be nothing surprising if he was corrupted), he still was a fascist and a racist. Hardly the symbol of democracy that western liberals are struggling to make him to be. BTW don't you find it curious how his "wife" was already at the munich security conference, ready to give a speech to the world just few hours after his death?

Don't you find curious that the kremlin sent out an announcement about Navalnys death 2 minutes after he was pronounced dead?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by pastacacioepepe »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #962
pastacacioepepe wrote: post #946

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wether that's true or not (given his ideological leanings there would be nothing surprising if he was corrupted), he still was a fascist and a racist. Hardly the symbol of democracy that western liberals are struggling to make him to be. BTW don't you find it curious how his "wife" was already at the munich security conference, ready to give a speech to the world just few hours after his death?

Don't you find curious that the kremlin sent out an announcement about Navalnys death 2 minutes after he was pronounced dead?

Kinda, yes. Curious timing as well. But why would Putin kill Navalny now, while he's in jail and inoffensive? Cui prodest?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by tryauuum »

Clubber wrote: post #951
tryauuum wrote: post #864

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I don't know much about the US but I assumed you don't have draft since the Vietnam war? And this is why USA army has to actually produce cool ads as opposed to Russian army who just takes people. Are you suspecting that the law would be changed to enable draft? Or maybe I'm confusing draft and conscription, are those different?

>I don't know much about the US but I assumed you don't have draft since the Vietnam war? And this is why USA army has to actually produce cool ads as opposed to Russian army who just takes people. You are correct. Conscription and the draft are essentially the same. I believe conscription is when you enter military service regardless of wartime, while the draft is explicitly to fill ranks. I could be wrong on that t…

Thanks, now I understand all the memes coming from US better

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by api »

joenot443 wrote: post #410
api wrote: post #200

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You forgot a chunk of the US right actively supporting Russia and praising Putin as savior of the West. They aren’t the majority but are influential. Xi Xinpeng should take a lesson here. Apparently all you have to do is dunk on gay people and pay lip service to right wing culture war stuff and they’ll roll over. You don’t even have to mean it. (Every core statistic the right claims to care about is worse in Russia l…

I hang out with people of a huge range of political views, from classical Marxist-Leninists to earnest tear-it-down anarchists, from neolib Obama stans to full magapedes. I've yet to meet a single one who "actively supports Russia and praises Putin as savior of the West". Like, literally not one. The only time I've _ever_ heard this viewpoint uttered in North America is when people online are sketching it out online…

Your average MAGA is a conservative who cares about things like low taxes and gun rights but who is also protectionist on trade and immigration. This is a change from the older Bush and Reagan conservatives who tended to be neoliberal. They may or may not care much about culture war stuff. Some do and some don’t.

I’m talking about ideologues and movement people. I have run into a few of these people in the wild, mostly neoreactionaries, trads, and neo-racists who use terms like “race realism.” I haven’t personally run into really hard core neo-Nazi types in my circles but those exist too.

A lot of the above either admire Putin directly or at least see him as an example of the kind of strong man ruler they think we should have.

It’s not clear to me whether the ideological affinity is mutual though. Putin’s Carlson interview seemed dismissive but Putin has dog whistled to these crowds. Maybe he’s just doing it for propaganda reasons and could personally care less.

There’s also a big claim about Putin being heavily influenced by Alexandr Dugin but I’ve heard others claim this is hugely overblown.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by m_fayer »

jszymborski wrote: post #680
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #602

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He will be forgotten in a week, at least by the West. Do you remember the guy who flew over Belarus and his plane was redirected to seize him? Any news? I do not even remember his name. Going back to Russia was a stupid move, he could have had much more visibility from the EU.

I can assure you I will never forget the name. Not all bravery is stupid. When people point to so-called inevitabilities of human character, as Putin and his ilk often do, I'll recall Navalny's name. I'll also recall the victories that were only possible thanks to people of similar courage. Things looked as helpess for Václav Havel, but without him we wouldn't have had the Velvet Revolution. I remember their names.

Thanks for this.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by CapricornNoble »

TomK32 wrote: post #188
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Surely not the last opposition figure and Russia will run out of manpower as every attacker has a higher loss than the defender. You forget Lukashenko, he wasn't unwilling to let Belarus join the Russian Federation for no reason. As soon as Putin dies for whatever reason, Lukashenko will be the first to race to the Kremlin and take over. Personally I have great hopes that an outsider like Kasparov could become Presid…

>> as every attacker has a higher loss than the defender

On what are you basing this assertion? I'm going to assume it's a flawed understanding of the oft-cited "3:1 rule", which a) isn't a rule, but a planning guideline b) never referred to casualty ratios, but to force ratios suggested for a successful attack.

>> Personally I have great hopes that an outsider like Kasparov could become President of Russia once Russia is defeated.

What influence does Kasparov have with Russia's security establishment? In other words, why would any of the men who actually wield power in the country support him?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by SCM-Enthusiast »

wkat4242 wrote: post #811
stcroixx wrote: post #474

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Europe deciding to depend on Russia for their energy and not focusing on defense spending is the unbelievable part to me, but they've been doing this for quite some time now. They walked right into it. Russia is doing what they've always done and always will do.

The US for all their huge defense spending has been involved in a lot more wars than the EU. So defense spending as prevention of war isn't really a thing either. Nor is winning them (forget Afghanistan?)

instability in the middle east was and still is the plan. As long as we keep the middle east from united under some new ottoman empire, the US is happy.

If we wanted to 'win', it would require taking over afghan which no one wanted to do.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by SCM-Enthusiast »

merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

>I would have never believed all this just a few years ago, how it will go down.

They have been following the same playbook since 2014. I'll tell you how it will go; Salami tactics.

Invasion of crimea, Annexation of parts of georgia, Annex Belarus, Annex Kiev, expand military and mining presence in the artic, Incite war in serbia with other baltic states, annex a modern yugoslavia.

At this point they will be the only major power who has been on a war footing for 10+ years. (US Skirmishes do not really count). They will have the inhouse manufacturing capabilities and knowledge to execute a ground war with the EU and will start by taking Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. I believe once they accomplish the above, they will be happy... for a generation or so.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by lostmsu »

nuker wrote: post #892
bvrmn wrote: post #249

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Sad times began in 2012. Since then opposition has no a single chance to win elections.

Sad times began in 2002, when the last independent TV channel (TV-6), to where the team of previously shut down channel NTV, flocked, was also taken over and shut down. That was the end of free press. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV-6_(Russia)

Maybe beginning of the end. The Internet was free until 2010 or so.
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