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Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by apexalpha »

kulikalov wrote: post #378

There are smart people who work for Russia, or worse - for russian gov. Without them it would not be possible. How can an individual have both the critical thinking and still have the gut to contribute to this? I grew up in rural russia. It's much much worse than what you see on the facade. My neighbour was a police man. His 15 years boy raped a kid from local orphanage and captured it on a video. No justice followed…

>I wish every person capable of critical thinking just leave this dreadful place and let it descend to the middle ages.

I think it might've already...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by secondary_op »

amai wrote: post #406

A 47 year old man killed by the 72 year old president. Nothing shows the conflict of generations in Russia better than this. The old farts of Russia/Soviet Union are killing the younger generation and by that are killing Russias future. For what, grandpa? For what?

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by rightbyte »

joenot443 wrote: post #410
api wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot a chunk of the US right actively supporting Russia and praising Putin as savior of the West. They aren’t the majority but are influential. Xi Xinpeng should take a lesson here. Apparently all you have to do is dunk on gay people and pay lip service to right wing culture war stuff and they’ll roll over. You don’t even have to mean it. (Every core statistic the right claims to care about is worse in Russia l…

I hang out with people of a huge range of political views, from classical Marxist-Leninists to earnest tear-it-down anarchists, from neolib Obama stans to full magapedes. I've yet to meet a single one who "actively supports Russia and praises Putin as savior of the West". Like, literally not one. The only time I've _ever_ heard this viewpoint uttered in North America is when people online are sketching it out online…

Usually, I believe the underlying reasoning is that they think someone is not pro-war enough, or anti-the guy enough, when they accuse someone of being pro the guy. Like secret supporters or something. Because actual pro the guy seem extremely rare.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by stcroixx »

merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Europe deciding to depend on Russia for their energy and not focusing on defense spending is the unbelievable part to me, but they've been doing this for quite some time now. They walked right into it. Russia is doing what they've always done and always will do.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by freetanga »

I hope never to see this conflict materialize, but if it does, I expect Russian aviation to be wiped out fairly quickly even without US assistance (they have not gained Air Superirity against Ukraine in 2 years).

And then a lot of angry Poles doing a blitz across Bielorussia.

At that point shit either goes Nuclear or Russia retreats.

I just don’t see Russian tanks across Berlin.

PS: hopefully now of this ever happens

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by kulikalov »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #453
kulikalov wrote: post #378

There are smart people who work for Russia, or worse - for russian gov. Without them it would not be possible. How can an individual have both the critical thinking and still have the gut to contribute to this? I grew up in rural russia. It's much much worse than what you see on the facade. My neighbour was a police man. His 15 years boy raped a kid from local orphanage and captured it on a video. No justice followed…

> I abandoned everything there and got out as soon as I could make any money. I wish every person capable of critical thinking just leave this dreadful place and let it descend to the middle ages. I don't begrudge you for doing that, as I would have done (and basically did) the same. But that also highlights how a lot of these places get more fucked up over time. The same thing is happening/has happened in the US. Ba…

Parts of population always did and always will be falling behind other parts.

Humanity must ensure that an individual has the way to realize their potential. Freedom to raise and freedom to fall.

The internet changed everything. The information flowing freely and allowing critical thinkers to get out of a swamp they found themselves in. At least this gives everyone a chance to see.

The other thing is immigration. Your case about the US is thankfully different because one can get on a car and leave to another state or urban area. It's not as easy to get out of russia. Get a visa first. Maybe. If you have education and fit into a category. Do not fit? Too bad, there are great places like Kazakhstan that are available though.

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Post by mschuster91 »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #466
mschuster91 wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do you propose the west avoids conflict with Russia and China? There's a lot of things the West can do without throwing nukes at the problem: - arming ourselves and our allies (especially Taiwan) to the teeth - supporting exiled and in-country opposition - intervening against hostile operations (such as "police stations") on our own soil - strengthen links with "global south" countries to minimize Chinese/Russi…

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Of course I would. We're at least a bunch of democracies, neither Russia nor China are.

I believe that we should have done much more, and much earlier, to foster democracies and to stop dictatorships and bullies. Instead, we let them fester (unfortunately, even amongst our own like Hungary and Turkey), and now the cancer has grown so massive that it will be very hard to kill it.

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Post by maxerickson »

zulban wrote: post #214
bdjsiqoocwk wrote: post #11

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There's a world of difference between Tucker (dabbles where he's deeply misinformed, "just asking questions" in total safety) and Russian "apologist" journalists who fear for their job and life.

They mean Russia apologists not Russian apologists.

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Post by protomolecule »

actionfromafar wrote: post #181
neuronic wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listen to internal speeches by Putin or Xi, they are often available on YouTube. We are not slowly sliding towards a world conflict, it has already begun and we are hopeless to stop it. It is arrogant to ignore or dismiss the happenings. Things were set in motion years ago and they are slowly unraveling. When the West rejected Russia's deeper integration into its structures after the Cold War ended and expanded NATO…

What deeper integration would that have been? Geniunely curious, I don't see what could have worked once the oligarchs were minted. They only care about selling simple low-effort stuff, easily corrupted, like oil.

Like this (2010):

No more tariffs. No more visas. Vastly more economic cooperation between Russia and the European Union. That's the vision presented by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in an editorial contribution to the German daily Süddeutsche Zeitung on Thursday.

"We propose the creation of a harmonious economic community stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok," Putin writes. "In the future, we could even consider a free trade zone or even more advanced forms of economic integration. The result would be a unified continental market with a capacity worth trillions of euros." [0]

[0] https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/from-lisbon-to-v...

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