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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by phtrivier »

belter wrote: post #34

A little reminder of what Putin has been up to in the last few years. - Annexation of Crimea (2014) - MH17 Downing (2014) - Intervention in Syria - 2016 U.S. Election Interference - Skripal Poisoning (2018) - Anti-LGBTQ+ Laws - Navalny Poisoning (2020) - Wagner Group Activities - Invasion of Ukraine (2022) - Killing of Yevgeny Prigozhin (2023) - Killing of Alexei Navalny (2024) What is necessary for US and European L…

A technical revolution that would have:

* instantly removes the need for oil and gas * instantly protects half of the world from nukes and radiations

(if possible, that would have done this 15 years ago.)

Now, as much as everyone, I loved reading the headlines in HN that told me about the new "energy breaktrough that will change everythin" - meanwhile, in the real world, we're stuck with oil & gas, and the countries owning it are basically free to behave as they please. Understandably, they behave... badly (except for Norway, I suppose ?)

But it's good that Silicon Valley stopped caring about producing energy, and is now mostly worried about to worst spend it in VR helmets and training AIs to generate fake porn.

Given the state of "reality", it's only fitting that we deal mostly in lies and head-burying.

For the second point, I don't think there is even anything in sight, so Putin's opponents are bound to only tread carefully with Putin.

With the Republican delaying aid, Trump almost certain to get back at the WH, and the fall of Adviivka just a couple of days away - this is, in objective terms, a good time to be sitting in the Kremlin.

The only certainty, however, is that, through diplomacy, artillery, or biology, the tides will turn. Navalny probably wished he would be there to see it. Fate decided otherwise.

"To the beggar: This, too, shall pass.

To the emperor: This, too, shall pass.

This, too, shall pass."

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

#92

Post by joshsyn »

timeon wrote: post #49
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

> west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior Also slowly folding. It is not happening only in little countries like Slovakia. US has relevant party that is now openly pro-Putin.

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

#93

Post by KingOfCoders »

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's trust that was left in Europe.

We just need to get our act together, not every country building or buying it's own incompatible weapons (like tanks, planes, frigates). The war in Ukraine shows how bad it is to run a war with ten different models of tanks etc.

And we can - at last - close Ramstein, Landstuhl and Weilerbach in Germany, no longer supporting US wars in the Middle East and beyond.

Living as a kid through the 70s and 80s with the PershingII/NATO Double-Track Decision I also would not have thought this threat is coming back the way it did.

[0] I'm sure Germany will not proceed on it's $10b F-35 plans

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by chaostheory »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #77
belter wrote: post #34

A little reminder of what Putin has been up to in the last few years. - Annexation of Crimea (2014) - MH17 Downing (2014) - Intervention in Syria - 2016 U.S. Election Interference - Skripal Poisoning (2018) - Anti-LGBTQ+ Laws - Navalny Poisoning (2020) - Wagner Group Activities - Invasion of Ukraine (2022) - Killing of Yevgeny Prigozhin (2023) - Killing of Alexei Navalny (2024) What is necessary for US and European L…

Yet it's not Russia you should worry about. But China. They are the real threat and are actively playing strategic chess by taking over resourceful parts of Africa, building up their military & immigrating their people over the world.

China is a paper tiger. They are fated to be weak due to demographics. They’re now beating Japan in the race to become the world’s largest retirement home.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by [deleted] »

bitcharmer wrote: post #65
carlos-menezes wrote: post #50

I don't understand why he went back to Russia --- on principle, maybe? Regardless, it wasn't worth it. He could and should have stayed in the West and pumped out anti-regime content: he would have achieved much more. Rest in peace.

GRU threatened his family. He did that to save them.

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by appplemac »

belter wrote: post #34

A little reminder of what Putin has been up to in the last few years. - Annexation of Crimea (2014) - MH17 Downing (2014) - Intervention in Syria - 2016 U.S. Election Interference - Skripal Poisoning (2018) - Anti-LGBTQ+ Laws - Navalny Poisoning (2020) - Wagner Group Activities - Invasion of Ukraine (2022) - Killing of Yevgeny Prigozhin (2023) - Killing of Alexei Navalny (2024) What is necessary for US and European L…

In addition to Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine were also invaded in 2014, and a lot of the area that was invaded then is still occupied today.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by belter »

profunctor wrote: post #6
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #4

Unbelievable. The world just watches.

What do you want to world to do? Russia is already under increasingly crippling sanctions and many countries are funding + arming its opponent in a war.

> Russia is already under increasingly crippling sanctions

You are surely joking...

"IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy - New 2024 forecast of 2.6% rise doubles previous prediction and prompts questions over sanctions against Moscow" - https://www.ft.com/content/21a5be9c-afaa-495f-b7af-cf9370931...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by jacquesm »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #86
jacquesm wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are other ways short of military intervention that can be quite effective.

Like what? Boycots are in place, what remains? CIA mingling? Taking Putin out? Any of those things are hard to predict and allow you to confidently steer the country in a right direction. There arguably a lot of places, for instance South America & Iran, where those action were taken and only made things worse.

Boycotts are definitely not in place and as long as we tolerate countries doing an end run around any kind of sanction without being sanctioned themselves they will remain ineffective.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by Lutger »

belter wrote: post #34

A little reminder of what Putin has been up to in the last few years. - Annexation of Crimea (2014) - MH17 Downing (2014) - Intervention in Syria - 2016 U.S. Election Interference - Skripal Poisoning (2018) - Anti-LGBTQ+ Laws - Navalny Poisoning (2020) - Wagner Group Activities - Invasion of Ukraine (2022) - Killing of Yevgeny Prigozhin (2023) - Killing of Alexei Navalny (2024) What is necessary for US and European L…

I'm afraid the answer is 'not having nukes'.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by lifestyleguru »

lm28469 wrote: post #68
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

> I would have never believed all this just a few years ago, how it will go down. The writing is on the wall for a while now, the only problem is that people talking about it are promptly labeled as not worthy of being listened to

This is just silly play of ironic smirks. The interests of key players in Europe are secured, some intra-Slavic conflicts have no importance for them.
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