Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on purpose

Post by nonethewiser » Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 2:50 AM UTC

shusaku wrote: post #229

addicted wrote: post #5

I don’t think Apple’s pettiness is gonna work in their favor. I am not in the EU but my next iPhone is almost certainly not gonna be an iPhone despite me having used a non iPhone for about 6 months in the last 15 years. Their throwing their customers under the bus just to throw a tantrum in the EU does not bode well for how they would treat their customers in other situations.

This is exactly why this legislation is stupid: if you don’t like the way Apple does things just buy an android.

Post by johnnyanmac » Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 2:51 AM UTC

Dalewyn wrote: post #291

arghwhat wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, while the argument is entirely bogus as "PWAs are unsafe" implies that loading web pages in that browser itself is unsafe and thus stopping PWAs but not loading pages is pointless, you do have to have full trust in Apple for security of your device as they are the sole provider for the core platform providing most of the security primitives used. That just doesn't exclude trusting others as well.

>implies that loading web pages in that browser itself is unsafe Since when was loading web pages ever considered safe, at least by those who actually breathe computer? It's frankly alarming how much trust we (must) give to Arbitrary, Remotely Executed Code(tm), especially given how many attack vectors are remote code executions.

Post by buzzert » Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 2:53 AM UTC

addicted wrote: post #5

I don’t think Apple’s pettiness is gonna work in their favor. I am not in the EU but my next iPhone is almost certainly not gonna be an iPhone despite me having used a non iPhone for about 6 months in the last 15 years. Their throwing their customers under the bus just to throw a tantrum in the EU does not bode well for how they would treat their customers in other situations.

Post by buzzert » Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 2:59 AM UTC

Zagitta wrote: post #132

addicted wrote: post #5

I don’t think Apple’s pettiness is gonna work in their favor. I am not in the EU but my next iPhone is almost certainly not gonna be an iPhone despite me having used a non iPhone for about 6 months in the last 15 years. Their throwing their customers under the bus just to throw a tantrum in the EU does not bode well for how they would treat their customers in other situations.

I hope EU comes down HARD on them for trying to pull this shit

Post by nemothekid » Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 3:01 AM UTC

benguild wrote: post #101

LeoPanthera wrote: post #7

Since the article doesn't actually repeat what Apple has said, here's what Apple says: == Begin quote == The iOS system has traditionally provided support for Home Screen web apps by building directly on WebKit and its security architecture. That integration means Home Screen web apps are managed to align with the security and privacy model for native apps on iOS, including isolation of storage and enforcement of sys…

The “low usage” comment is going to be more ammo against Apple unfortunately. The whole reason they are low usage on PWAs is because of a lack of investment from Apple and a lack of parity, yet for the longest time Apple has played both sides by saying PWAs are a viable alternative to the App Store, all while channeling people to App Store for actual app downloads and not providing similar marketing or anything for P…