Hopefully they use gmail next
Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
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Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#22Ban everything you cannot control / understand! That is the classic Indian bureaucracy reaction. For example, They also banned tinted windows in cars after an assualt happened in a car. Then, there was a time where they banned something or the other on a daily basis. Even right now there is Section 144 imposed in multiple cities - which means a "ban" on "unlawful assembly" of 5 or more people. 5 or more people in mul…
It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.
At least electromagnetic transmitters are something one expect to be regulated.
It is bad regulation, but it's just overzealous. Email ban is borderline censorship.
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose not by much if you create a new one or use somebody else’s data. I’m sure the proton one wasn’t also someone’s main email account.
But Google will usually provide logs/IP addresses (not content) to police without a warrant, which can be used to start tracking down the culprit. It isn't clear from the report if the Police got a warrant or even made a request to ProtonMail.
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Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.
UK government has tried to ban encryption time and time again. This is what happens when you have old/incompetent career politicians in power instead of deep thinkers like scientists and engineers.
It's worse than you think. Read the Criminal Justice Act (Offensive Weapons) Order 1988 (S.I 1988/2019) and marvel at some of the nonsense some politician thought it important to ban.
My personal favourite is "Death Stars", since it creates the mental image of some constable trying to confiscate a superlaser-equipped battlestation.
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#25Wtf!! I am user of Protonmail and its other services (from India).
The protonmail ID is actually my main Email-Id and is used everywhere, even on government sites.
Hope https://internetfreedom.in/ steps in or some other organization.
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
UK government has tried to ban encryption time and time again. This is what happens when you have old/incompetent career politicians in power instead of deep thinkers like scientists and engineers.
> deep thinkers like scientists and engineers That doesn't work, either, because they tend to be rather dismissive of human concerns, and, at its heart, government is all about humans. I don't have a solution, but I don't think that declaring that only one-or-another "class" of humans is fit to govern, is it.
That's a stereotype and probably not true. Many deep thinkers are humanists.
It's probably more likely around the hyper rational types, but my boss is the most empathetic engineer I've ever worked for. This is anecdotal but your comment seems fairly clearly overbroad
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#27"On February 8, a bomb threat was sent to 13 schools in Chennai, a city in the state of Tamil Nadu in southern India. The threat turned out to be a hoax, and the Tamil Nadu police found that the email was sent via a ProtonMail account. Unable to trace the IP address of the sender and failing to get assistance from Interpol, the Tamil Nadu police put in a request to India's Ministry of Electronics and Information Tech…
Wait until they hear about the inability for US authorities to trace swatting phone calls and robocalls and scam texts.
Ban the phone system!
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.
At least electromagnetic transmitters are something one expect to be regulated. It is bad regulation, but it's just overzealous. Email ban is borderline censorship.
Flipper Zero complies with all regulations, it's a certified consumer device. That it can record and replay a radio signal is not something that should be regulated.
We have laws for stealing cars, we don't need to ban specific tools that, among a multitude of other uses, might be used to steal a car.
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.
UK government has tried to ban encryption time and time again. This is what happens when you have old/incompetent career politicians in power instead of deep thinkers like scientists and engineers.
Its possible for young people to make these mistakes. My wife is not an old man and her default position is not to defend e2e encryption. So all it takes is a spurious argument against it (think of the children!) and without skin in the game she is happy to go along.
The argument is about proportional gain vs proportional loss and she is not aware of the devastating loss of privacy that would come from banning strong safe encryption.
Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat
#30There's a pretty egregious misunderstanding of how email works in both the article and the proposed ban.
Protonmail can only end-to-end encrypt email when the receiver is also using Protonmail. The email spec has no support for a universal encryption method, one of the reasons we'd be better off not using email at all today.
They also don't explain how the inability to track the sender's IP is specific to Protonmail. Unless I missed a key feature, Protonmail doesn't do anything to hide or obscure the sender's IP.