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Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by konschubert »

bheadmaster wrote: post #10
rockyj wrote: post #5

Ban everything you cannot control / understand! That is the classic Indian bureaucracy reaction. For example, They also banned tinted windows in cars after an assualt happened in a car. Then, there was a time where they banned something or the other on a daily basis. Even right now there is Section 144 imposed in multiple cities - which means a "ban" on "unlawful assembly" of 5 or more people. 5 or more people in mul…

> Now, how do they enforce / check these "assemblies of people" depends on the people you ask. I assume police officers enforce / check them when they need to fill their ticket quota, want to get money through a bribe, or just want to punish someone who personally annoyed them? That's how it usually works with half-enforced laws. In every law, there should be a requirement that it either gets enforced equally, or it…

Selective enforcement transfers all power to the enforcer.

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by chollida1 »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #6
thih9 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose not by much if you create a new one or use somebody else’s data. I’m sure the proton one wasn’t also someone’s main email account.

But Google will usually provide logs/IP addresses (not content) to police without a warrant, which can be used to start tracking down the culprit. It isn't clear from the report if the Police got a warrant or even made a request to ProtonMail.

> But Google will usually provide logs/IP addresses (not content) to police without a warrant, which can be used to start tracking down the culprit.

Not in Canada. Google has been very clear they don't give anything to law enforcement without a warrant.

Where are you getting your information from? Because its very scary if true.

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by cedws »

jwr wrote: post #8
rockyj wrote: post #5

Ban everything you cannot control / understand! That is the classic Indian bureaucracy reaction. For example, They also banned tinted windows in cars after an assualt happened in a car. Then, there was a time where they banned something or the other on a daily basis. Even right now there is Section 144 imposed in multiple cities - which means a "ban" on "unlawful assembly" of 5 or more people. 5 or more people in mul…

It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.

UK government has tried to ban encryption time and time again. This is what happens when you have old/incompetent career politicians in power instead of deep thinkers like scientists and engineers.

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by recroad »

India for all intents and purposes is now an ethno-national state with no press freedom, severe persecution of minorities, and human rights violations aplenty.

I grew up in India when it was a relatively secular state. For example, when the Babri Masjid (mosque) was destroyed by Hindus in the early 90s, the national magazine, India Today and major newspapers led with the headline, "India's Shame" and acknowledge how bad that was for Indian secularism.

Less than a month ago the same mosque was now converted into a Hindu temple and the press and government led the cheerleading.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/22/why-is-indias-ram-t...

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by alephnerd »

"On February 8, a bomb threat was sent to 13 schools in Chennai, a city in the state of Tamil Nadu in southern India. The threat turned out to be a hoax, and the Tamil Nadu police found that the email was sent via a ProtonMail account.

Unable to trace the IP address of the sender and failing to get assistance from Interpol, the Tamil Nadu police put in a request to India's Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology to block access to ProtonMail within the country"

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

https://www.onmanorama.com/content/mm/en/kerala/top-news/202...

so apparently a child was abducted and one thing led to another and the child was recovered so the child revealed how he was shown tom and jerry cartoon.

the police then went on a fishing trip and literally cross referenced which user in a particular area watched tom and jerry on youtube at a particular time/date to find the cuprits.

if this wont get your antenna up, i dont think anything else will

proton thing is normal compared to this

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

cedws wrote: post #13
jwr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not specifically Indian. Canada just banned Flipper Zero devices because the little radios can replay car key fob signals and older cars are susceptible to replay attacks. Stupidity is everywhere.

UK government has tried to ban encryption time and time again. This is what happens when you have old/incompetent career politicians in power instead of deep thinkers like scientists and engineers.

> deep thinkers like scientists and engineers

That doesn't work, either, because they tend to be rather dismissive of human concerns, and, at its heart, government is all about humans.

I don't have a solution, but I don't think that declaring that only one-or-another "class" of humans is fit to govern, is it.

Re: Indian government moves to ban ProtonMail after bomb threat

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Post by risinaf661 »

recroad wrote: post #14

India for all intents and purposes is now an ethno-national state with no press freedom, severe persecution of minorities, and human rights violations aplenty. I grew up in India when it was a relatively secular state. For example, when the Babri Masjid (mosque) was destroyed by Hindus in the early 90s, the national magazine, India Today and major newspapers led with the headline, "India's Shame" and acknowledge how…

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