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The Matrix Trashfire

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Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by zaik »

rglullis wrote: post #161
tetraca wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having set up and administrated both an XMPP and a Matrix server, XMPP is way less a pain in the ass. I've enjoyed dealing with prosody much more than either synapse or dendrite. XMPP doesn't tank my server every time I try to join a new room and it doesn't take forever to start talking in a room after you join it. And provided you're running the server, getting people onto XMPP has not been hard in my experience. I…

If you go through your contact list right now, how many people are on iOS, and how many of them do you think you could successfully convince to use XMPP as the primary method to reach you? With Matrix, I don't need to convince them .

Monal on iOS has made it quite easy to convince people to contact me via XMPP. Right now I have 31 XMPP contacts and 1 Matrix contact.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by rglullis »

zaik wrote: post #171
rglullis wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go through your contact list right now, how many people are on iOS, and how many of them do you think you could successfully convince to use XMPP as the primary method to reach you? With Matrix, I don't need to convince them .

Monal on iOS has made it quite easy to convince people to contact me via XMPP. Right now I have 31 XMPP contacts and 1 Matrix contact.

Your about page: Interests: XMPP, OpenStreetMap, Wikidata.

Nice, I'd like to be friends with you. But do you realize that maybe, just maybe, you are facing a bit of availability bias?

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by zaik »

nusl wrote: post #154

Pretty poor post. It highlights some issues, sure, though the author obviously never tried to actually try. Also, they say there's profanity but I don't see any; apparently the word "cyberfurz" is profanity? The author's prejudice is showing.

Furz means fart in German.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by specialist »

brightball wrote: post #123
vallode wrote: post #58

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QA is a massively underappreciated position. A QA person that knows when to automate, when to manually test, and how to report and file issues relevant to the project can save a significant proportion of hours on a project overall. I wish many more companies included budget for QA, it saves developers a lot of time. A bit of a side-note: this sort of analysis is a great answer to "I want to contribute to open source,…

Good QA people are hard to find and it's a weird balance to strike. I've seen QA get run over by aggressive developers. I've seen QA people who were so good, detailed and provided clear reproduction steps that developers couldn't wait to see them work. I've seen QA people who were completely unwilling to work on efficiency improvements, automation or even testing things in parallel so they became a bottleneck to the…

> Good QA people are hard to find

True.

A good tester is the kind of person who revels in running the same lab experiment many, many times and chortles for always getting results within the error bars.

A good QA is the kind of person who can think of every way something will fail, and then come up with a proactive risk mitigation strategy that makes everyone smile with pride.

> QA get run over by aggressive developers

True.

Back when we had QA/QC, my "One Weird Trick" was to put the QA / Test team in charge of releases. Running the bug triages, in charge of acceptance testing, running the go/no-go meetings, etc.

Worked f@#$ing great. Almost like magic. Zero drama. Our releases were almost anti-climatic.

I miss the '90s.

Well, I miss my '90s QA/Test experience.

Most everyone else was stuck in Kem Caner's world. The preeminent "SQA" guru who preached victimhood and grievances. Probably did more than any one to pile drive the QA Test profession into the Mariana Trench of irrelevance.

(Apologies, weak sauce, I know. I usually have a better "colorful metaphor" ready to deploy for these types of rants.)

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by wiktor-k »

dijit wrote: post #169
upofadown wrote: post #166

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What XEP interoperability issues prevent federation?

There are more than 370 XEPs. Here's the first one I found that causes server server incompatibility: https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0369-0.7.1.html What was always missing was a golden set of standards. Maybe XMPP "2" is XMPP and a set of XEPs and so on. Otherwise all you have is a bunch of half-working XMPP implementations. Very famous ones of course include voice/video. The UX on that is atrocious.

> Here's the first one I found that causes serverserver incompatibility: https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xe

What kind of incompatibilities does it cause? It's an unfinished spec for group chats, which, to my knowledge is barely implemented anywhere.

Just for the record I'm using both XMPP and Matrix daily and both have issues :/

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by zaik »

rglullis wrote: post #172
zaik wrote: post #171

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Monal on iOS has made it quite easy to convince people to contact me via XMPP. Right now I have 31 XMPP contacts and 1 Matrix contact.

Your about page: Interests: XMPP, OpenStreetMap, Wikidata. Nice, I'd like to be friends with you. But do you realize that maybe, just maybe , you are facing a bit of availability bias?

Oh sure, but it's still a counterexample to your statement. I can convince people to use XMPP, and almost nobody is using Matrix if you don't do the convincing.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by t0bia_s »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #144
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #72

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The Japanese testers were the best I'd ever seen. They never reported a "NotABug." They could back up every report, and give exact reproduction steps. They found weird, obscure corner cases, and that was by hand (they hated automation tools). They had 3,000-line Excel spreadsheets. If even one of those rows failed, the whole shooting match (like an entire product line) could come to a halt (so that meant they had to…

Do you have any insights into why desktop and mobile software from these companies is so universally horrible? I’m thinking of Canon’s remote tethering tools, Fuji’s instax and remote control apps for iOS, and Epson’s scanner software.

Fujifilm software is outdated garbage. UX was developed probably during WinXP era and still present. However their cameras are excellent.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by stevenicr »

Really glad to see these discussions happening.

I started creating a similar post for matrix/element/server installs - a while back,

Screenshots and saving putty sessions.. (wondering if I should find a tool that records ssh input/output or just use the save sessions built in)..

I've succeeded with a matrix server install 2 out of 6 tries.

I am about to try again with a new install since I don't have faith in succeeding a multi-version upgrade.

I wish there was an easy way to export user names and email addys to port to a new install, as I worry that making a new install could allow for some nefarious people to come in and create accounts with another old user's name.

I love matrix and element and other clients, it's the best for what many need - although there are many rough spots in using it both server side and as an end user.

Moderation usability is a major issue for us, maybe with a new install I will jump into that rabbit hole of how to set things up for that and see if it's easier these days.

I hope the vucuum DB and such is better with the newer versions.

Looking forward to scouring the web for tutorials on all the basic things debian and perhaps logging the journey, maybe just screenshots will be fine, we'll see.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by t0bia_s »

Never used Element on iOS however on Android its... Ok. Not great, not terrible. Recently it's slower in loading chats in rooms and overall responsiveness is sometimes laggy. Desktop experience is without any issues.

Re: The Matrix Trashfire

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Post by zaik »

dijit wrote: post #170
zaik wrote: post #168

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> difficult to actually federate as most XEPs are optional or not supported on your federation partners This is false.

Voice/Video is an optional XEP and if it's not supported what happens to the client exactly? "this is false" is a terribly glib statement with literally no backing and can only be said if a person has either zero knowledge of what they're talking about or they've tied themselves to a single implementation of XMPP everywhere, which is essentially standardising a bunch of XEPs.

In Conversations if A/V is not supported, you do not get a button to call them. The people I text most use Conversations, Monal or Gajim which are all independent implementations.
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