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Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by tugberkk »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #100
lyapunova wrote: post #60

Let me say, he's a great teacher! I took a CV class with him. He should teach more, and take it seriously. Being a popular AI influencer is not necessarily correlated with being a good researcher though. And I would argue there is a strong indication that it is negatively correlated with being a good business leader / founder. Here's to hoping he chills out and goes back to the sorely needed lost art of explaining co…

I think good teachers make great researchers, because they have to understand their field very well, they anticipate and ask themselves the questions that need to be asked, they manage to always see their field with fresh eyes, they are good collaborators, and most importantly, good communicators.

If they are teaching the specific research topic, yes. Otherwise, you need to come up with 14-week course material for different courses.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by darkwater »

epolanski wrote: post #234
huytersd wrote: post #108

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But no one cares about 3.5. It’s an order of magnitude worse than 4. An order of magnitude is a lot harder to catch up with.

That really depends on the use case. For some advanced reasoning you're 100% right, but many times you're doing document conversion, summarizing, doing RAG, in all these cases GPT 3.5 performs as good if not better than GPT 4 (we can't ignore cost and speed) and it's very hard to distinguish between the two.

I would dare to say that in general most people need every day help on more simple tasks rather than complex reasoning. Now obviously, if you get complex reasoning at the same speed and cost of simpler tasks, it's a no-brainer. But if there are trade-offs...

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by inglor_cz »

bayindirh wrote: post #245
al_borland wrote: post #156

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I know things keep moving faster and faster, especially in this space, but GPT-4 is less than a year old. Claiming they are losing their luster, because they aren’t shaking the earth with new models every quarter, seems a little ridiculous. As the popularity has exploded, and ethical questions have become increasingly relevant, it is probably worth taking some time to nail certain aspects down before releasing everyt…

You don't lose your luster only by not innovating. Altman saga, allowing military use and other small things step by step tarnish your reputation and pushes you to the mediocrity or worse. Microsoft has many great development stories (read Raymond Chen's blog to be awed), but what they did at the end to other competitors and how they behave removed their luster, permanently for some people.

"allowing military use"

That would actually increase their standing in my eyes.

Not too far from where I live, Russian bombing is destroying homes of people whose language is similar to mine and whose "fault" is that they don't want to submit to rule from Moscow, direct or indirect.

If OpenAI can somehow help stop that, I am all for it.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by WhrRTheBaboons »

passion__desire wrote: post #163
bobthepanda wrote: post #98

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Sometimes I wish as a profession we valued teaching more. I would love to teach, but not do research, and make a living.

Become the next 3blue1brown. He has inspired many. Here's a gem of educator. Check out his other videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhYqflvJMXc

easier said than done

3b1b's main selling point is the extreme level of polish on his visualizations - something that takes a lot of time (money) to develop

the sad part is that it takes extreme luck to make it on yt. i wish educating skills counted for more but unfortunately they don't, really.

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Post by anoopelias »

skybrian wrote: post #36
Imnimo wrote: post #10

Every time Karpathy quits his job, the field takes a leap forward because he makes some fantastic educational resource in his free time.

Examples? (I'm not that familiar with field.)

And he was teaching CS231n in Stanford in 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfnWJUyUJYU&list=PLkt2uSq6rB...

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by WhrRTheBaboons »

inglor_cz wrote: post #254
bayindirh wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't lose your luster only by not innovating. Altman saga, allowing military use and other small things step by step tarnish your reputation and pushes you to the mediocrity or worse. Microsoft has many great development stories (read Raymond Chen's blog to be awed), but what they did at the end to other competitors and how they behave removed their luster, permanently for some people.

"allowing military use" That would actually increase their standing in my eyes. Not too far from where I live, Russian bombing is destroying homes of people whose language is similar to mine and whose "fault" is that they don't want to submit to rule from Moscow, direct or indirect. If OpenAI can somehow help stop that, I am all for it.

>If OpenAI can somehow help stop that, I am all for it.

I got some bad news for you then.

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by bayindirh »

inglor_cz wrote: post #254
bayindirh wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't lose your luster only by not innovating. Altman saga, allowing military use and other small things step by step tarnish your reputation and pushes you to the mediocrity or worse. Microsoft has many great development stories (read Raymond Chen's blog to be awed), but what they did at the end to other competitors and how they behave removed their luster, permanently for some people.

"allowing military use" That would actually increase their standing in my eyes. Not too far from where I live, Russian bombing is destroying homes of people whose language is similar to mine and whose "fault" is that they don't want to submit to rule from Moscow, direct or indirect. If OpenAI can somehow help stop that, I am all for it.

On the other hand, Israel is using AI to generate their bombing targets and pound Gaza strip with bombs non-stop [0].

And, according to UN, Turkey has used AI powered, autonomous littering drones to hit military convoys in Libya [1].

Regardless of us vs. them, AI shouldn't be a part of warfare, IMHO.

[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/01/the-gospel-how...

[1]: https://www.voanews.com/a/africa_possible-first-use-ai-armed...

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by vwkd »

dgellow wrote: post #212
danpalmer wrote: post #194

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I think OpenAI will do fine, but I have doubts about ChatGPT as a product. It’s just a chat UI, and I’m not convinced the UI will be chat 3 years from now. Personally, the chat UI is the main limiting factor in my own adoption, because a) it’s not in the tool I’m trying to use, and b) it’s quicker for me to do the work than describe the work I need doing.

I interact with ChatGPT by voice pretty often, they have the best speech recognition I’ve ever seen. I can switch between languages (English, French, German) mid-sentence, think aloud, stop mid sentence, the correct what I just said, use highly technical terms (even describe code), I don’t even double check anymore because it’s almost always transcribed correctly. They can ~easily evolve the product to a more general…

Do you use the voice chat in the ChatGPT app?

In my experience, stopping to talk even for a moment already makes it submit. This makes a real conversation with pauses for thought difficult, because of the need to hurry before it cuts off.

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