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Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#101

"AI" Well, the company is fucked. I wonder who will pick up the pieces of the browser tech. There are two pieces of tech that AI might apply to: 1) Semantic ad-blocking (this will fuck up their only source of reliable revenue so it won't happen) 2) content filtering for a child-friendly mode. This actually is a good idea, but it won't happen because it'll be easily repurposed to perform bullet point #1.

Firefox is already using AI (fully local) for their new translation feature.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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post #30

Backing off of VPN, Relay and Monitor sounds like bad news. They are the Mozilla's only source of income if the Google search deal goes away. Mozilla's financial statements never detailed how much money they were spending on their different segments, so perhaps those projects weren't generating profit, and thus weren't worth keeping even though they brought in revenue. I can certainly see how it would be hard to comp…

I was thinking of signing up for Mozilla Monitor but seeing them already downsizing it is a huge concern.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#103

So many people I know don't switch to FF because of missing tab grouping (and no, not a single addon gives the similar fast and nice experience). It's like number one feature and yet they waste time on stuff like this

I would love to use FF but dev tools in FF feels clunky and slow compared to Chromium. It also seems to have some kind of rendering slowness on my Wayland machine that Chrome doesn't have (i.e. 3fps). Not that dev tools is on par with something as fundamental as tab grouping, but I share the frustration of Moz doing silly shit instead of polishing the basics.

Honestly I feel the opposite. Seems mote like a familiarity thing.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#104
AI in browser? Time to move on after all this time then.

Is librewolf good? Or any other browser? I recently provisioned a Linux workstation and I'm very reluctant to install Chrome. The super insecure X11 will not help it stop practically scanning my every key stroke.

Any good ideas for a browser on Linux XFCE?

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#105

AI in browser? Time to move on after all this time then. Is librewolf good? Or any other browser? I recently provisioned a Linux workstation and I'm very reluctant to install Chrome. The super insecure X11 will not help it stop practically scanning my every key stroke. Any good ideas for a browser on Linux XFCE?

IceCat is a usable replacement if you disable the add-ons that supposedly keep you safe but totally don't.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#107

"AI" Well, the company is fucked. I wonder who will pick up the pieces of the browser tech. There are two pieces of tech that AI might apply to: 1) Semantic ad-blocking (this will fuck up their only source of reliable revenue so it won't happen) 2) content filtering for a child-friendly mode. This actually is a good idea, but it won't happen because it'll be easily repurposed to perform bullet point #1.

Firefox is already using AI (fully local) for their new translation feature.

A) I don't think that's the type of feature to which they are referring to, B) I wouldn't call that "AI" by the current sense of the word when it can be narrowly described with "automated translation", and C) we've had high-quality translation for well over a decade now with or without Firefox.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#108
post #16

Is there any sort of corporate structure around one of the forks? There's no doubt in my mind that if it were organized somehow the community would be able to fund a few developers to work on Firefox alongside Mozilla. I don't want an aggressive split, but I'd like to be able to support the project. I've donated to Mozilla in the past but it apparently was not going to Firefox directly.

I would be willing to make a monthly donation, but only if I knew that it was going to the development of Firefox and/or Thunderbird.

Thunderbird is a separate organization and you can donate to that project directly.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

#109
post #92
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe time to fork Firefox.

Desktop linux market share is below 2% yet people aren't talking about it being on its last legs like with Firefox. How does Firefox's 3.5% market share prevent people from using it ? Is the 180,000,000 number of monthly active users simply too low ?

It's a bit more scary for the average user to install a completely different OS than it is to download a browser they can get rid of in a click or two if they don't like it.

I can understand 2% for linux-based desktop OS, but 3.5% for a browser available on most major OS isn't great at all..

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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post #95
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktop linux market share is below 2% yet people aren't talking about it being on its last legs like with Firefox. How does Firefox's 3.5% market share prevent people from using it ? Is the 180,000,000 number of monthly active users simply too low ?

wow you are right, they have 3,5%. I thought they had like 25-30%. Safari had 18% apparently, I know 0 people who use Safari

> wow you are right, they have 3,5%

It depends a lot on the country. In Germany, Firefox' market share is larger since Firefox is viewed as the browser that takes the users' privacy concerns (e.g. tracking, DRM (there still exists Firefox EME-free), ..) most seriously.

According to

> https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/germ...

Firefox' market share is about 18.6 % among the desktop users in Germany, i.e. among the desktop browsers, Firefox has the 2nd largest market share in Germany (for all platforms: according to

> https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/germany

in Germany, Firefox' market share is currently about 10.4 %).

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