Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America • Hacker News Board

Re: Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America

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Post by woah » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 5:37 PM UTC

its_ethan wrote: post #114

woah wrote: post #62

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Why are apartments in the city so much more expensive then? Your opinion is contradicted by reality.

It feels like you're comparing apples to oranges here. For one, you need a pretty significant down payment for a home where as you need maybe 1months rent as a reimbursable security deposit for an apartment. Being able to afford a $2000/month apartment != you could afford to go out and buy a $1800/month house. Supply and demand is also tied into this - younger people who want to live in cities flock to like 3-5 major…

Seems like pretty circular logic to me:

Apartments in the city are too expensive ->

It's because we're not building enough apartments in the city ->

But Americans don't want to live in apartments in the city ->

Why are they so expensive then? ->

Well, see, it's because there is too much demand and not enough supply, buut not like the article says, actually the people who want these apartments aren't real Americans or maybe they deep down really DO want a suburban house but they just don't know it etc etc etc

Re: Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America

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Post by QuercusMax » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 11:57 PM UTC

DANmode wrote: post #191

QuercusMax wrote: post #188

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Precisely. Architecture and construction can be improved, but kids are always going to yell. And unless you really believe kids have to live in detached housing, the answer is obvious - fix our environment to keep kids from annoying their neighbors.

> kids are always going to yell. Your kids, maybe. This isn't a ubiquitous perspective. But, some people don't tell their kids "no" about anything, so... I'll teach mine to mostly yell in big open spaces, while biking, on a playground, during sports.

Guess you don't have any kids with ADHD or other neurodivergence. Must be nice.

Re: Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America

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Post by watwut » Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 5:32 PM UTC

nottorp wrote: post #110

watwut wrote: post #70

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You cant legally drive when you had one small beer. You can legally buy beers or other alcohol when you already had one beer. If the store is not selling you alcohol due to intoxication, you should stop driving several drinks ago. I can get good selection of beers or other alcohol at reasonable price in the regular store within 5-10 min of walk anywhere in the city assuming it is not middle of the night.

Missing the point entirely, I see. The point is the europe apartment doesn't need survivalist style storage because it's close to stores. I could have said Mars bars or steaks but the OP post was about a beer fridge so I went along with it.

I just find the notion of "being too drunk to be able to buy another beer while not being too drunk to drive".

Re: Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America

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Post by watwut » Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 5:32 PM UTC

jessriedel wrote: post #102

watwut wrote: post #70

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You cant legally drive when you had one small beer. You can legally buy beers or other alcohol when you already had one beer. If the store is not selling you alcohol due to intoxication, you should stop driving several drinks ago. I can get good selection of beers or other alcohol at reasonable price in the regular store within 5-10 min of walk anywhere in the city assuming it is not middle of the night.

> You cant legally drive when you had one small beer Not in the US. The legal limit in almost all states is 0.08.

But they also sell alcohol to people who around that drunk.

Re: Why we can’t build family-sized apartments in North America

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Post by engineer_22 » Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 7:04 PM UTC

nostrebored wrote: post #200

engineer_22 wrote: post #104

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Not bad, just different.

No, bad and unsustainable. Almost every city in the U.S. is supported by its urban core. The infrastructure cost of handling suburbs is absurd. Increasing sprawl is fiscally irresponsible and most cities are underwater without extra funding as it is.

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