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Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by jmspring »

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #70
jmspring wrote: post #31

One thing I have heard from people is multiple reputable companies have been looking to see if the salary desired is not only inline with the range expected; but they are also calibrating things against what comparable levels/individuals in the team/org make. The norm, in the last few years, has generally been in most cases a new hire makes more than a long tenured individual in the team.

Makes sense. Why spend once maintaining talent when you can spend twice acquiring it?

I think it makes complete sense, but for years, it's been the norm to over pay to acquire.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by Klonoar »

eloisant wrote: post #28
thaumasiotes wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I remember a friend who interviewed with Google and got stuck in SF for three weeks due to snow storms on the east coast and got fired from Accenture as a result. It takes less than one week to travel across the country by road. There's a whole system of Greyhound buses that serve exactly this purpose. How is it possible to get stuck for three weeks? https://www.greyhound.com/bus-routes/san-francisco-ca-new-yo... n…

You probably don't know it's going take more than a week right away. You hope you can fly the next day, then the next, etc...

As someone who had this happen to them but in London: yeah, this is how it goes.

Once flights resume it’s a thundering herd problem of annoying proportions too.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by LeafItAlone »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #86
LeafItAlone wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that the parent I was responding to didn’t understand my intent? Did you really think I meant any random location on the east coast?

Yes, because otherwise it doesn’t seem like an outlandish enough scenario to justify literally saying you don’t believe him. Hurricane Sandy was the first thing that sprang to my mind, but there have been plenty of major travel disruptions over the years, and I wouldn’t expect to hear every time some smaller city was unreachable from California.

Given their response above, they figured out my intention even without being super pedantic.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by throwawaysleep »

neilv wrote: post #74

> Key Elements for Job Search Microsite > * Have a professional profile picture I don't do this, for two reasons: 1. Being a photographer taught me that I'm much better on the buttons side of the camera, not the lens side. 2. Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US. Due to the long history of unfair prejudices, which are still ongoing in some ways. Even better would be if we could remove names, for being cues…

> Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US.

They don't legally or consciously belong in hiring in the US. Doesn't mean it may not be to your advantage to have one.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by askonomm »

eloisant wrote: post #30
Clubber wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember when on-site interviews were an hour and that was it. All this stuff companies do now is insane. If a person isn't performant, you'll know within 30 days, but you'll never know by interviewing them. I haven't had to cold interview in 20+ years. I hope I never have to based on how it works now. I get all my jobs from previous colleagues. Companies are closing the door to a lot of great talent based on this…

I interviewed at Google nearly 15 years ago and it was already phone screen + a marathon of on-site interviews. Maybe 4 in a row.

Most companies are not Google however. ~10 years ago when I applied for jobs in small-to-medium non-FAANG companies it was really just a 1hr onsite at most.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by LeafItAlone »

throwawaymaths wrote: post #37
LeafItAlone wrote: post #19

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> I remember a friend who interviewed with Google and got stuck in SF for three weeks due to snow storms on the east coast This is literally unbelievable. I cannot remember a time when the east coast was inaccessible for three weeks…

Snowpocalypse/snowmageddon. 2010 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_5%E2%80%936,_2010_N... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_25%E2%80%9327,_2010... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_25%E2%80%9327,_2010... Two back to back storms, there was about 12 hour window where you could get in or out. This poor guy was supposed to fly back during the first, got pushed to a flight during the second, and then…

I’m familiar with travel in that storm. It sounds like they didn’t really make an effort. They _didn’t_ get back, which is different from they _couldn’t_ get back. Which is probably why they got fired.

Overall, though, it doesn’t change your original point about interviews, and I didn’t really need to take us on this tangent.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by hiAndrewQuinn »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #68
IggleSniggle wrote: post #43

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I guess I got lucky in when I started out as a career switcher in 2017. Iirc I applied 6 places, had 4 interviews, got 2 offers. Mind you this was as an effectively junior person applying to mid-level positions. I like to think that having so few interviews allowed me to concentrate my enthusiasm and highest mental energy into the interviews I had, but maybe it's just survivors bias. Since then I've taken 3 interview…

Energy itself is a winning strategy. It translates to an initiative in an employers eyes, which is something that cannot be taught.

Can confirm. Energy is about the only way I could rely on myself to crack open a totally foreign job market with less than a year of experience under my belt when I was starting out. I set myself the goal of 10 applications a day, every day, anywhere in Finland was acceptable -and within 3 months I had my first offer.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by rco8786 »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #43
qwertygnu wrote: post #25

I don't question that is takes hard work, even for more senior devs like the author, but 30 apps leading to 3 offers is a dream. Most early-career people are probably at >100 app with maybe a few interviews and hopefully one offer.

I guess I got lucky in when I started out as a career switcher in 2017. Iirc I applied 6 places, had 4 interviews, got 2 offers. Mind you this was as an effectively junior person applying to mid-level positions. I like to think that having so few interviews allowed me to concentrate my enthusiasm and highest mental energy into the interviews I had, but maybe it's just survivors bias. Since then I've taken 3 interview…

2017 was a very, very different job market for us engineers

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by simantel »

giantg2 wrote: post #63
bradly wrote: post #41

> One company used an IQ test This is interesting. I haven't had that one yet, but last week I had an application with a "personality" test that asked whether I tend to vote for left-leaning candidates or right-leaning candidates. This company was in the healthcare space. GitHub asking for approval for AI to review my resume was a bit of a beat too. I did not give permission, and it definitely left me feeling at a di…

I thought IQ tests were illegal?

It has to technically be an aptitude test, but they really toe the line. Vista Equity, for instance, requires all their companies to use the CCAT in hiring: https://www.criteriacorp.com/candidates/ccat-prep

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by appplication »

throwawaysleep wrote: post #94
neilv wrote: post #74

> Key Elements for Job Search Microsite > * Have a professional profile picture I don't do this, for two reasons: 1. Being a photographer taught me that I'm much better on the buttons side of the camera, not the lens side. 2. Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US. Due to the long history of unfair prejudices, which are still ongoing in some ways. Even better would be if we could remove names, for being cues…

> Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US. They don't legally or consciously belong in hiring in the US. Doesn't mean it may not be to your advantage to have one.

Yes it is a fair take to say they shouldn’t have a role. It is a naive one to suggest they don’t.

Unless you want to make hiring harder on yourself, put up a professional photo. You’re not going to change the world by not doing so, you’re only going to waste your own time.

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