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Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Post by kridsdale1 »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #281
washadjeffmad wrote: post #193

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We tried at first, but we were so overwhelmed by the rate of deaths from the earliest moments of the pandemic that the org couldn't keep reporting them. It was a demoralizing effort for HR to try to put something, even a few words together for everyone, and it's left a lasting pallor where vibrant personal touches once were. People continue to vanish, and there's still no notice that, or how, they've moved on. Our Ge…

> rate of deaths from the earliest moments of the pandemic that the org couldn't keep reporting them Truly sorry for your collective loss, but where/what industry did you work in where this was a significant number?

Healthcare would be one place where a very large number of workers died.

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Post by boulos »

evmar wrote: post #313
umbauk wrote: post #119

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Is it still going? Were you ever made change it by HR? I left 5 years ago. Loved that thing!

It was still going at the time I left (~2y). Most of the work of keeping it alive had been done by others for the last decade, so I hope someone else is still carrying the torch. We had the occasional HR interaction but to my recollection never anything nasty.

I'm still (poorly) maintaining it!

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Post by washadjeffmad »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #281
washadjeffmad wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We tried at first, but we were so overwhelmed by the rate of deaths from the earliest moments of the pandemic that the org couldn't keep reporting them. It was a demoralizing effort for HR to try to put something, even a few words together for everyone, and it's left a lasting pallor where vibrant personal touches once were. People continue to vanish, and there's still no notice that, or how, they've moved on. Our Ge…

> rate of deaths from the earliest moments of the pandemic that the org couldn't keep reporting them Truly sorry for your collective loss, but where/what industry did you work in where this was a significant number?

Public sector in one of the earliest hotbeds, with a large vulnerable population across several demographics.

Think, a city, and it swept through us like it did the hospitals and nursing homes.

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Post by mysteria »

wil421 wrote: post #203
at-fates-hands wrote: post #66

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I worked at a large web dev company and for years they had this attitude. Then one designer put in his two weeks and spent the majority of the time downloading all the site files for all of the sites the company had built over the two years he was there. We're talking hundreds of static sites where he took the all the design docs and static HTML/CSS/JS files one would need to recreate them somewhere else. Instead of…

Get a DLP system in place for god sakes. I’ve even seen off shore people work from VMs only where they can’t download or store any file locally, much less dump everything to a USB stick.

If you really want protection you don't want a DLP, you want a (limited) air-gap.

Basically the machine is not allowed to access the internet and USB drives do not work. Only specific locked down applications like the email app, web browser, and so forth have internet access. Downloads are allowed but uploads are not.

A permissions interface is available for say legitimate transfers of data to a flash drive or a web upload, in that case the user will have to add a valid reason and the specific files into the form. Once that's checked and approved by a higher-up the files are temporarily placed in a special folder that permits transfer out. The same thing goes for external emails that aren't on a whitelist, they'll need approval before they get sent.

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Post by harryquach »

ryandrake wrote: post #227
xorcist wrote: post #207

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So when you've earned your f-u money you stop showing up for work? That's not what we see in practice. Most people with a sudden windfall (stocks, lottery winnings etc.) keeps showing up for work. Because how else would you stay socially meaningful in our society? Nobody really wants to sit at a beach sipping drinks the rest of their life, accomplishing nothing. There is clearly a social aspect of work, at least for…

> So when you've earned your f-u money you stop showing up for work? Yes. Absolutely 100% I am looking forward to it and counting down the days.

Absolutely, there are plenty of ways to be social, on my terms, with the people I choose. If I didn’t have to trade my time for money there are plenty of ways I can fill my days without corporate bullshit.

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Post by harryquach »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #273
mynameisbob22 wrote: post #231

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Until the pandemic, we would regularly eat lunch together somewhere. For years, this was a standard routine in my life. It was a perfect way to get a feeling what others were doing, what the problems were, how the general mood in the team was, what was going on in their lives. I invited everyone to my wedding during lunch. I told them I was becoming a father during lunch. 2 people told us they were leaving during lun…

> There is no real forum left for beginners to ask dumb questions they would rather not see in some chat log. this is a key point; employees who have been together a long time can easily switch over to maintaining that same level of connection while WFH (I've experienced that). But it's very hard for a "new guy" to integrate if s/he has never interacted, or only occasionally, with their coworkers in person.

There is nuance to this as well. The company size and culture make a dramatic impact. I recently joined a small company which is fully remote. Everyone has been helpful and supportive as I have been onboarding.

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

seer wrote: post #122
Aurornis wrote: post #48

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Watching people’s accounts go into deactivated status in Slack with no goodbye is sad. The most toxic boss I ever worked for would request access to former employee’s Slack accounts under the guise of looking for data to transition their job. Their accounts would periodically go green when he logged in as them. Spooky to see ex-coworker accounts go green and know the boss is scouring their private messages. I know co…

One company I worked for used to have an unofficial “ex-company” slack setup, where people would get invited to by others that have already left and were in there, it was kinda nice since you form bonds with people and suddenly they’re just gone. You might have not managed to connect with them in any other form. But you login to “ex-company” slack workspace and here they are - everyone that went through the company.…

> One company I worked for used to have an unofficial “ex-company” slack setup,

More than one for me.

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Post by htrp »

bombcar wrote: post #263
notbeuller wrote: post #223

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Years ago I got a job through a recruiter, left company A for B. She called me after a few months and asked me for the Compsny A internal directory - which I declined to provide and she got kind of nasty about it. Maybe ten years later I was at company C and my manager mentioned hiring a recruiter - same person. I mentioned our previous interaction (not out of spite, just a naive narrative) and they stopped working w…

People asking for company directories amuses me so much, especially when most company email patterns are completely guessable.

it's more the name and the org chart?

maybe the phone number too

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Post by marviel »

> Incidentally, if someone gets mad about you running this sort of thing, you probably don't want to work there anyway. On the other hand, if you're able to build such tools without IT or similar getting "threatened" by it, then you might be somewhere that actually enjoys creating interesting and useful stuff. Treasure such places. They don't tend to last.

too true

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Post by 2024throwaway »

xorcist wrote: post #207
ryandrake wrote: post #93

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The way I see it I go to work to exchange my skills for money. Often that involves working with others, but I’m not there to socialize and make friends. I have friends. So given that outlook, WFH seems just kind of more “pure.” It’s distilled work, unencumbered by phony pseudo-friendships and awkward water cooler chit chat about sportsball. When we start a zoom meeting I can just launch right into the agenda without…

So when you've earned your f-u money you stop showing up for work? That's not what we see in practice. Most people with a sudden windfall (stocks, lottery winnings etc.) keeps showing up for work. Because how else would you stay socially meaningful in our society? Nobody really wants to sit at a beach sipping drinks the rest of their life, accomplishing nothing. There is clearly a social aspect of work, at least for…

> Nobody really wants to sit at a beach sipping drinks the rest of their life, accomplishing nothing.

Speak for yourself.

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