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Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#141

So many people here showing they know nothing about satcom or wireless networks

Perhaps you could expand beyond that flippant snark and help people understand what they're missing? Otherwise, your comment doesn't really contribute much beyond making you feel better than others.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#142
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's lied on Twitter before. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776 resulted in his having to step down as Tesla board chair and have his tweets vetted by a minder. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/elon-musk-ordered-to-ab...

I assume he meant that the 20,000 Starlink terminals donated to Ukraine had cost $100 million.

The ones paid for by US DoD contract?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#144
post #98

Curious to see if Musk is willing to step in and disable them or if this treatment is reserved for UAF only.

These kind of conversations are exhausting. I for one don’t know all the details, which I think there are many. I realize it is easy to make a blanket accusation and harder to provide details. Last time I looked this up it was pretty murky. Specifically on your point I believe there was a couple things at play but maybe I am wrong. 1) did not have approval by the state department 2) blanket rule that they could be us…

> would be nice to explore the topic more than “Musk is bad”

Isaacson’s Starlink claims are muddied.

But Musk has tweeted Kremlin propaganda points, e.g. on its proximate nuclear red lines (which, for the record, we’ve since passed). I blame David Sacks for giving him bad advice. But whatever the reason, it’s fair to question whether this was intentional at some level.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#145
post #124

Isn't this free intelligence? Monitor the communications from Russian locations and around Ukraine.

Although both sides know the others locations pretty well anyway from drones and informants. And presumably the communications are encrypted.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#148

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

Yeah, listening in wouldn't work because you can always stack more encryption on top of the one the carrier might listen in to. But Starlink can't operate without exact knowledge of antenna locations for aiming the phased arrays (some sibling said that it can operate without GPS, but I read that as it's able to locate the antenna on its own after a crude signal handshake is done).

But in a world where Musk/Starlink/someone inside Starlink/someone with sufficient leverage over Starlink was trying to hinder the Russian invasion, they would allow Starlink terminals to be sourced through plausibly shady channels and then operate in Russian hands for quite a while, before striking locations and only then shutting down.

Or even go all Ultra on them and start an elaborate programme to create alternative explamations for the data use.

One reason I don't consider this likely: imagine how hard Musk would enjoy going through his very own version of the Cryptinomicon Ultra plot line. The idea that he might be able to keep that a secret just doesn't fit in my skull.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#149
It's pretty cheap to call musk a pro russian.

He is the one private person that helped ukraines war effort the most by providing them starlink in the first place.

Is it so hard to understand that there are reasons for him to not allow the usage for deep strikes, besides him beeing on putins payroll?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Why is this comment noteworthy? He is a smart guy irrespective of whomsoever makes this observation.

Because Putin's statements are not mere random utterances of 'fun facts'. How many times has Putin said 'Garry Kasparov is a smart guy'? (Kasparov is a former world chess champion, Russian Presidential Candidate, and now works on Renew Democracy Initiative, a pro-democracy NGO, which opposes spread of autocracy). Or, for that matter, the same abt Navalny or any of his other opponents ?

Reductionist thinking is convenient, but far too often misleading.

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