Adam Savage's recent video said large companies don't like to lay off big blocks of employees so they just do it in small batches over the year. They fire the last person who made any mistake.
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The way I see it I go to work to exchange my skills for money. Often that involves working with others, but I’m not there to socialize and make friends. I have friends. So given that outlook, WFH seems just kind of more “pure.” It’s distilled work, unencumbered by phony pseudo-friendships and awkward water cooler chit chat about sportsball. When we start a zoom meeting I can just launch right into the agenda without…
I also have friends, but I rarely see them on workdays. Having other people around me on those days feels good, I don't like being alone for several days. I totally can do and have done that, but I prefer to not be alone. Additionally, my colleagues and I share big parts of our life: every damn workday. None of my friends are capable of talking as long and nuanced about things happening at my workplace. They don't re…
Man, i have different friends than you. I have listened to a friend rant for 3 hours about a BS project at a company I haven't worked at. Another friend rant over weeks and I wasn't even in the same industry.
I talk to my friends during the day. I'm lucky that we're all remote, but honestly even my in office family members can chat sometimes at work.
When I was in the office, I rarely connected with coworkers. I was often the youngest and/or just not in the same life stage. I could exchange pleasantries and that was about it. I have a grand total of 2 friends from work after over a decade of work across several companies. My social life is still vibrant outside of that.
I don't even understand where people think you can't connect to peolle WTH. I just had an hour long chat with a coworker about nothing at all. Sometimes people just need to chat about nonsense and VC people. Peoppe seem to be afraid of that, but I don't see why. We can work and talk. We did it in the office.
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> You put in your two weeks? Nah, you're out the moment you hit send on that email. Manager alerts security, who then come over to your desk. You get your jacket and whatever you walked in with and get walked out. This will work for the first 5-10-20 people, then word of mouth goes out about this policy and your evil designer is downloading everything the day before sending their resignation mail.
Or “your sales guy is making a little backup of the leads from the CRM before handing in notice”. Though with sales orgs I think this is almost an expected practice - sales people are often hired on the tactit, never officially acknowledged basis that they will bring their leads list.
Years ago I got a job through a recruiter, left company A for B. She called me after a few months and asked me for the Compsny A internal directory - which I declined to provide and she got kind of nasty about it. Maybe ten years later I was at company C and my manager mentioned hiring a recruiter - same person. I mentioned our previous interaction (not out of spite, just a naive narrative) and they stopped working with her immediately. My point being - your behavior has a long tail, so don’t be trying to take advantage.
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#224Fun fact: back when I was a contractor for Apple many years ago (while Steve Jobs was CEO), I learned through their directory service that Steve Wozniack was still an employee and reported to then-CFO Peter Oppenheimer.
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#225> uid (unix account name) Is this a joke or for real?
Most likely real. In LDAP, the "uid" attribute is commonly used to store the Unix account name. The numeric Unix uid/gid are stored in the "uidNumber"/"gidNumber" attributes.
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I am a part of one such group! It started as a WhatsApp group for all ex-employees, but has now morphed into a discord server. It's a great way to remain connected to friends you make at work, and recently, it has also become a way to share job openings to your network to help laid-off people.
Anybody have connection to the ex-google one if there is? I just left and didn't see it referenced in any of the leaving guides.
https://xoogler.co/ has a xoogler slack
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way I see it I go to work to exchange my skills for money. Often that involves working with others, but I’m not there to socialize and make friends. I have friends. So given that outlook, WFH seems just kind of more “pure.” It’s distilled work, unencumbered by phony pseudo-friendships and awkward water cooler chit chat about sportsball. When we start a zoom meeting I can just launch right into the agenda without…
So when you've earned your f-u money you stop showing up for work? That's not what we see in practice. Most people with a sudden windfall (stocks, lottery winnings etc.) keeps showing up for work. Because how else would you stay socially meaningful in our society? Nobody really wants to sit at a beach sipping drinks the rest of their life, accomplishing nothing. There is clearly a social aspect of work, at least for…
> So when you've earned your f-u money you stop showing up for work?
Yes. Absolutely 100% I am looking forward to it and counting down the days.
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Fortunately in Europe what the said boss did is illegal and this can end with a criminal prosecution.
The rules on this vary across Europe, though broadly speaking accessing an employees mailbox is “something you only do after speaking to legal”. The patchwork of national laws and national interpretations of EU regulations is quite interesting, and rather confusing especially if you do offensive security work or DFIR. As an example, when doing consultancy we would do the usual phishing as part of an assessment. Usual…
> The rules on this vary across Europe
Not really, ECHR has already ruled on this.
It's pretty much only allowed if there's an important reason for it. For example, to recover something invaluable (contract, code, report) that isn't available somewhere else and cannot be replaced. In that case that's also the only thing that them employer can look for. They can't open obviously unrelated e-mails. So before talking to legal, make sure you have a valid reason.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fortunately in Europe what the said boss did is illegal and this can end with a criminal prosecution.
What? First, Europe isn't a single country and there are large difference between legal systems. Second, what you said is just plain wrong in at least one. In France (which is known for strict worker protections) the employer can go through any employee's mailbox or files on their work computer/account provided 1. that the messages/files in question aren't clearly marked as personal 2. that the conditions for the acc…
> Europe isn't a single country
Correct, but it does have a single ECHR. Even though some countries still ignore them.
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#230Love this bit: "Incidentally, if someone gets mad about you running this sort of thing, you probably don't want to work there anyway. On the other hand, if you're able to build such tools without IT or similar getting "threatened" by it, then you might be somewhere that actually enjoys creating interesting and useful stuff. Treasure such places. They don't tend to last."
I wonder if this counts as personal data. It's a copy of everyone's name, job title and employment dates. I can certainly see many European businesses would be wary of an employee keeping this list.
Are you referring to GDPR? Does it apply to employees too, or only customers?