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Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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In Germany it's also a very good idea to monitor the "Handelsregister" (register of all companies) and see who currently is really the CEO, who can sign things etc. This shows early ripples in the force (e.g. founders on their way out, willfully or forced).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen a company during WFH let a laid off employee (who asked) keep their access for an hour, to post a goodbye message. It's not good practice for all situations -- you need some trust, despite the stressful situation, when people tend to show character and weaknesses -- but in this case, it worked out. The departing employee posted a message of encouragement to the remaining people. Kind words and contact info…

Surprisingly enough, as toxic as Amazon is, after I got Amazoned and made my choice to “leave Amazon and get a nice severance” instead of “try to work through the PIP and still get fired and only get a third of the severance amount”, they let me stay for a week to finish up a customer project. I worked in Professional Services. I told them that I really wanted to finish the work for a customer (large state organizati…

Sorry about getting Amazoned. They don't have a reputation as a place inspiring loyalty. But, at least in non-Amazon contexts, I absolutely know people who would say they wanted to finish up some work, and they'd mean exactly that.

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Not a WFH thing. This is a USA thing!! Edit: OP said "Layoffs in the WFH era are weird" Yes they are, but people here don't suddenly go offline quite as weird is what I was trying to get at. Here in Sweden if you are FTE there is usually a 1-3 month layoff period (upppsägningstid) where you work and get paid still. At the end of the period you leave. People usually email the team and even the entire company with "hey…

On the other hand, when we talk about low it salaries it is never a USA thing, but an Europe thing.

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The lockout always struck me as dumb and I didn't do it as a manager. If I trusted them for the 3 years they worked for me, I can trust them for another week or two. Tie up loose ends, take your time. We're all adults here. I understand that under the worst circumstances bad things can happen but that's always the case.

I worked at a large web dev company and for years they had this attitude. Then one designer put in his two weeks and spent the majority of the time downloading all the site files for all of the sites the company had built over the two years he was there. We're talking hundreds of static sites where he took the all the design docs and static HTML/CSS/JS files one would need to recreate them somewhere else. Instead of…

...so now people who want to do that just copy everything before sending the email?

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post #129

Don’t think my employer would take too kindly to attempts to download bulk employee lists

Can they monitor for such a thing? Does say, Azure AD show whenever someone downloads data? Does Outlook make a similar call to figure out the name dropdowns?

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

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Not a WFH thing. This is a USA thing!! Edit: OP said "Layoffs in the WFH era are weird" Yes they are, but people here don't suddenly go offline quite as weird is what I was trying to get at. Here in Sweden if you are FTE there is usually a 1-3 month layoff period (upppsägningstid) where you work and get paid still. At the end of the period you leave. People usually email the team and even the entire company with "hey…

On the other hand, when we talk about low it salaries it is never a USA thing, but an Europe thing.

Not Switzerland, still Europe, still can't fire on the spot during layoffs like in the US. I know it's an exception though.

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Layoffs in the WFH era are weird. Back in the day you had a pretty good idea of who got laid off because you saw them walking out the door with a box of their stuff. You could go up to them and say, "hey let's meet at $local_watering_hole and hang out". You could swap contact info if you didn't already have it. You could get closure. Now, one day a bunch of people just stop replying to email. You have a to wait a whi…

I got fired from the office on a Friday evening when more than half the company already logged off.

What is the wonderful closure you get?

Anyway, welcome to the corporate world. It pretends to be personal, but it's business.

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I made epitaphs! AMA

Is it still going? Were you ever made change it by HR? I left 5 years ago. Loved that thing!

It was there when I left several months ago, so I assume so. Or maybe I shouldn't, they started shuttering a lot of these kinds of things after layoffs.

Re: Figure out who's leaving the company: dump, diff, repeat

#140

Scanning, dumping, and diffing of active directory also helps seeing when people got promoted. ("Software Engineer" -> "Software Engineer II" -> "Senior Software Engineer" etc). Useful for figuring out stats on "promotion velocity" in one org vs other. Wouldn't work at "a certain company" if such company now made all their levels secret by default of course.

There is no need to show levels if the company has solved equity already, right?
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