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IMO their slack avatar/posts go gray within minutes of them being sacked.
Yeah, whenever I want to find out if someone still works at the company, I just search them on Slack. If it has "(deactivated)" after their name, they're no longer employed here.
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This may be the only time I ever say this, but thank god for LinkedIn. At least you know you can always catch up with someone who has left
Assuming they have LinkedIn and you bothered to connect while they still worked with you. :)
Layoffs in the WFH era are weird. Back in the day you had a pretty good idea of who got laid off because you saw them walking out the door with a box of their stuff. You could go up to them and say, "hey let's meet at $local_watering_hole and hang out". You could swap contact info if you didn't already have it. You could get closure. Now, one day a bunch of people just stop replying to email. You have a to wait a whi…
IMO their slack avatar/posts go gray within minutes of them being sacked.
I happened to remember the total number of people who were in our org’s giant slack channel before the layoffs and thus was able to do some hardcore detective work subtracting the new number of people in the channel from the previous amount to get the answer…
Layoffs in the WFH era are weird. Back in the day you had a pretty good idea of who got laid off because you saw them walking out the door with a box of their stuff. You could go up to them and say, "hey let's meet at $local_watering_hole and hang out". You could swap contact info if you didn't already have it. You could get closure. Now, one day a bunch of people just stop replying to email. You have a to wait a whi…
I regret to have had a recent opportunity to notice that MS Teams shows an empty status icon for deleted/disabled accounts. Their documentation describes it as "status unknown": https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/presence-ad...
There's a very common problem with systems that use SSO, where the 3rd parties that accept SSO logins cache the login information, sometimes indefinitely. A user can leave the company but their login placeholder account stays in the 3rd party, and active login sessions are maintained basically indefinitely. So you can leave the company and lose your AD account, but still access the 3rd party. As Rachel says it's kind…
IT admins call this "User Lifecycle Management" and it's typically a required feature for enterprise-scale customers.
(I work at WorkOS and we help developers with this: https://workos.com/directory-sync)
I automated a small newsletter called "The Weekly Diff" for a few close trusted coworkers and sent it out each Friday with a list of who's new and who was missing from the company directory. And I kept a scraped database including phone numbers in case anyone wanted to reach out to anyone after they'd been removed.
Sometimes you make the best out of a failing company culture. Kept a lot of friends that way just by reaching out with some words of support :)
Layoffs in the WFH era are weird. Back in the day you had a pretty good idea of who got laid off because you saw them walking out the door with a box of their stuff. You could go up to them and say, "hey let's meet at $local_watering_hole and hang out". You could swap contact info if you didn't already have it. You could get closure. Now, one day a bunch of people just stop replying to email. You have a to wait a whi…
The most toxic boss I ever worked for would request access to former employee’s Slack accounts under the guise of looking for data to transition their job. Their accounts would periodically go green when he logged in as them. Spooky to see ex-coworker accounts go green and know the boss is scouring their private messages.
I know companies can get slack messages anyway, but seeing your boss do it in real time is extra creepy.
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IMO their slack avatar/posts go gray within minutes of them being sacked.
At Amazon, when someone was laid off their Slack still worked for the 60 day WARN period. It was actually a problem because you would Slack them and get mad that they didn't reply. The only way to know for sure was to ask their manager, but you didn't want to do that because if they weren't laid off you didn't want to throw them under the bus!
So weird companies can’t just pay that out as severance
Edit: OP said "Layoffs in the WFH era are weird" Yes they are, but people here don't suddenly go offline quite as weird is what I was trying to get at.
Here in Sweden if you are FTE there is usually a 1-3 month layoff period (upppsägningstid) where you work and get paid still. At the end of the period you leave.
People usually email the team and even the entire company with "hey im leaving here is my info"
Now people CAN get fired day of, but that has to be VERY grounded.
Again, Not a WFH thing. This is a USA thing!! I notice this time and time again where people complain about IT or WFH, but it's just that you're in the USA, land of the exploited.