Morale plummets at Google as workers complain bosses are 'inept' and 'boring'

Post by ChatGTP » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:27 AM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #187

noqc wrote: post #183

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> Websearch is sputtering sure but that's normal after a challenge like chatgpt. If you think the complaint about google search is that it isn't as good as chatgpt, I think you might be not listening. The problem with google search is that it's worse than it was

To be fair, Google Search is worse today because the web is worse today. But to be ultra-fair, the web is worse today because of the perverse incentives created by Google Search and Google Ads.

Post by proc0 » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:31 AM UTC

vineyardmike wrote: post #73

proc0 wrote: post #47

I've wondered about the connection between organizations at the human level, and entropy. Nothing can avoid the increase in entropy, not even teams and their work culture. The processes used get old and unwieldy, domain knowledge becomes fragmented, features take longer and have more bugs, etc. Perhaps this is inevitable, but maybe organizations could become aware of the changes in entropy and try to do the equivalen…

“Refactoring at the org level” sounds like re-orgs and layoffs. I think it’s unavoidable. You hire to grow, but growth changes you. You can’t layoff to un-grow and return to former self because they layoffs take a toll.

Post by esafak » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:33 AM UTC

jaggederest wrote: post #41

flkiwi wrote: post #8

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We'll see how short-term thinking works out for them in a decade. "Rich but irrelevant" isn't a good place to end up. But at least shareholders in 2024 got a percentage more in gains.

Just like IBM, outperforming the S&P by -4500% overall since the 1960s.

Post by imadierich » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:37 AM UTC

skort wrote: post #161

treprinum wrote: post #12

"And I just want to clarify that, through these changes, people feel it on the ground and sometimes people write back and say, ‘Thank you for simplifying.’" Is there any mandatory training for CEOs to first understand when somebody is kissing up, second evaluate how devastating is cherry picking rare positive feedback to the company's morale? I can't believe top people can be so inept.

I don't think you get to be the CEO of a big tech company by caring about workers.

Post by twojobsoneboss » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:41 AM UTC

tehlike wrote: post #236

asah wrote: post #93

(repost after every Google-bashing...) Alternate perspective as a longtime googler, ex-googler, mostly-happy user and shareholder. Please hear me out. As user, I'm pretty ok with Google. Websearch is sputtering sure but that's normal after a challenge like chatgpt. I tried Bing again and came back after a day. Google seems ok on privacy: in 2024, you don't see hackers exfiltrate Google data, employees abuse privilege…

Ex googler here. Google has become a utility company, and I believe that's what you are saying. And I agree. I love Gmail, photos, drive etc and I have been a Google user longer than I have been an employee. This is a good thing. But, I started my career at google, and can tell you with confidence that it is not the best place to build a career, especially if you are a high performer. Google will shape everyones care…