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Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Someone just noticed Apple’s decades old SOP. Watch the aggregate fumble about, fail over and over, then take the few ideas that survive rapid, aimless iteration attempts and add the last mile of polish. A decade of crappy Palm, WinCE, and easily forgotten Java based mobile devices came and went before iPhone. They know what software people refuse to accept; it’s the hardware experience that matters and they’ll wait…

Apple's real SOP is to make white males believe in the inevitability of Apple cultural dominance so they feel inclined to buy anything with the logo on it as a signal i.e. you convinced yourself Vision Pro was great before ever using it

The Vision Pro's marketing doesn't suggest they are targeting white males. For example their landing page[0] features zero of them.

[0] https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240207021726/https://www.apple...

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> It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first This idea that Apple gets to things late to "perfect them" is an artifact of the iPod/iPhone era. Nothing Apple put out since then has met this bar. Apple does things low-key these days because it has to. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? A few memes was all it took to send everyone scurrying back to GMaps f…

Suggests what? SUGGESTS WHAT??? Apple must have got to him...

I edited it. That last incomplete sentence wasn't visible in the textarea element. I submitted it before checking.

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Apple makes a ton of sense. They sell hardware (and services for that hardware). It would make sense that they want to commoditize foundation models while at the same time creating yet another reason to buy their most powerful hardware. Meta is the real wildcard here. They're betting on "commoditize your compliment" and hoping by making GenAI training nearly free (by doing it for you) that none of their competitors c…

Historically, Apple doesn't sell hardware, they sell a combination of software and hardware that are supposedly more tightly integrated than is possible when those things are developed separately. It's interesting and surprising that they would develop and release an open source model.

Apple devices have specialized processors, that while quite powerful, need some custom coding.

They don't want to be left behind with a "everyone with an Nvidia GPU can play" world. Open-source is the best counter to that right now.

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> It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first This idea that Apple gets to things late to "perfect them" is an artifact of the iPod/iPhone era. Nothing Apple put out since then has met this bar. Apple does things low-key these days because it has to. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? A few memes was all it took to send everyone scurrying back to GMaps f…

I’m not at all convinced about the inevitable success of the Vision Pro (which I maintain is in its current form, a dev kit being marketed as a mass-consumer device), but this just isn’t true. To use a few examples that have happened after Apple Maps: * The Apple Watch — Apple was at least 2 years behind other smartwatches when it launched in 2015 and now it basically owns the category. The first version wasn’t quite…

I agree that Apple software has a big hill to climb when it doesn't have the iPhone halo to buttress its bugs.

The Apple Watch has a big advantage: it's one of the cheapest things they sell. It is the iPod Shuffle of its time. But as it doesn't work without an iPhone, I cannot agree that it owns the market.

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I’m not at all convinced about the inevitable success of the Vision Pro (which I maintain is in its current form, a dev kit being marketed as a mass-consumer device), but this just isn’t true. To use a few examples that have happened after Apple Maps: * The Apple Watch — Apple was at least 2 years behind other smartwatches when it launched in 2015 and now it basically owns the category. The first version wasn’t quite…

The Apple Watch was 2 years behind other smartwatches? How so?

Fitbit and various other "exercise-aimed" smartwatches were already out way before the Apple Watch, and there were other smartwatches (such as Pebble) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartwatch has a whole listing.

Apple came in quite late and slurped up much of the market. If their watch was Android-compatible, it'd be even more.

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It feels like Apple has been very quiet about their approach in some of the future spaces (self-driving, VR/AR, AI) but then they suddenly burst out with something like Vision Pro. It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first. If they can produce a superior product their brand will let them dominate those markets whenever they decide to release.

yet every review calls the vision Pro a "work in progress". I don't buy this I also wonder why they broke with their naming scheme ("Pro" is not the Pro of any smaller model)

The MacBook Pro was released in January of 2006, followed by the MacBook in May of 2006 (if Wikipedia is to be believed, but it matches my memory).

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Someone just noticed Apple’s decades old SOP. Watch the aggregate fumble about, fail over and over, then take the few ideas that survive rapid, aimless iteration attempts and add the last mile of polish. A decade of crappy Palm, WinCE, and easily forgotten Java based mobile devices came and went before iPhone. They know what software people refuse to accept; it’s the hardware experience that matters and they’ll wait…

> A decade of crappy Palm, WinCE, and easily forgotten Java based mobile devices came and went before iPhone Including the Apple Newton, arguably the first handheld device.

I still think the iPhone was "safer" than all those others (every single one of those listed had its ardent defenders, mind you) because so many people had iPods and it was "an iPod that can make phone calls" - so there was less risk buying it, especially after the price drop to $399 for the 8 GB (you could pick up 4GB quite cheap, then).

The iPod classic was $349 (for many more songs, admittedly), but the prices were comparable.

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I’m not at all convinced about the inevitable success of the Vision Pro (which I maintain is in its current form, a dev kit being marketed as a mass-consumer device), but this just isn’t true. To use a few examples that have happened after Apple Maps: * The Apple Watch — Apple was at least 2 years behind other smartwatches when it launched in 2015 and now it basically owns the category. The first version wasn’t quite…

I agree that Apple software has a big hill to climb when it doesn't have the iPhone halo to buttress its bugs. The Apple Watch has a big advantage: it's one of the cheapest things they sell. It is the iPod Shuffle of its time. But as it doesn't work without an iPhone, I cannot agree that it owns the market.

It doesn't own the market (not by a long shot), but it has the highest market share by far. Not bad for being locked to a single platform.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/910862/worldwide-smartwa...

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The Apple Watch was 2 years behind other smartwatches? How so?

Fitbit and various other "exercise-aimed" smartwatches were already out way before the Apple Watch, and there were other smartwatches (such as Pebble) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartwatch has a whole listing. Apple came in quite late and slurped up much of the market. If their watch was Android-compatible, it'd be even more.

They may not have been the first in the category, but those products were arguably a generation behind what apple introduced. Fitbit in particular was like comparing a flip phone to an iPhone.
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