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Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by sigspec » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:33 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #35

ericmcer wrote: post #4

It feels like Apple has been very quiet about their approach in some of the future spaces (self-driving, VR/AR, AI) but then they suddenly burst out with something like Vision Pro. It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first. If they can produce a superior product their brand will let them dominate those markets whenever they decide to release.

> It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first This idea that Apple gets to things late to "perfect them" is an artifact of the iPod/iPhone era. Nothing Apple put out since then has met this bar. Apple does things low-key these days because it has to. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? A few memes was all it took to send everyone scurrying back to GMaps f…

Suggests what? SUGGESTS WHAT???

Apple must have got to him...

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by suoduandao3 » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:34 PM UTC

oldpersonintx wrote: post #19

rujkking wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone just noticed Apple’s decades old SOP. Watch the aggregate fumble about, fail over and over, then take the few ideas that survive rapid, aimless iteration attempts and add the last mile of polish. A decade of crappy Palm, WinCE, and easily forgotten Java based mobile devices came and went before iPhone. They know what software people refuse to accept; it’s the hardware experience that matters and they’ll wait…

Apple's real SOP is to make white males believe in the inevitability of Apple cultural dominance so they feel inclined to buy anything with the logo on it as a signal i.e. you convinced yourself Vision Pro was great before ever using it

I don't 'do' Apple, neither do the vast majority of my friends.

But, having used a borrowed mac product in the past, I do recognize that using them is just... pleasant. Not enough to justify the higher price point, but the superior user experience isn't just marketing.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:35 PM UTC

roody15 wrote: post #33

MBCook wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when they didn’t have that garden. Look at the iPod. Other MP3 players existed, but flash media was too small. Other hard drive players existed, they were too big. And both had bad interfaces (by Apple standards). Apple didn’t show up until they could meet all their goals. They could have made a phone sooner, it wouldn’t have been the iPhone. They could have made a headset sooner, it wouldn’t be the Vision Pro.…

“They could have made a headset sooner, it wouldn’t be the Vision Pro“ Hmm I guess. Vision Pro seems rushed from vantage point. Odd battery pack … only 2 hour charge … limited field of vision. Also the screens that show a picture of your eyes are off putting and strange. Think Apple may have rushed here too quickly. We need more battery life.. think we may be looking more for an Augmented Reality mode which works on…

> Vision Pro seems rushed from vantage point. Odd battery pack … only 2 hour charge … limited field of vision

Six hours of connected battery [1] (compared to days for the competition), no copy paste [2], no third-party apps.

[1] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/iphone/iphone-faq/iphone-...

[2] https://9to5mac.com/2022/06/20/apple-engineer-first-iphone-c...

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by seydor » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

ericmcer wrote: post #4

It feels like Apple has been very quiet about their approach in some of the future spaces (self-driving, VR/AR, AI) but then they suddenly burst out with something like Vision Pro. It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first. If they can produce a superior product their brand will let them dominate those markets whenever they decide to release.

yet every review calls the vision Pro a "work in progress". I don't buy this

I also wonder why they broke with their naming scheme ("Pro" is not the Pro of any smaller model)

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by cheald » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:37 PM UTC

MrThoughtful wrote: post #5

gnicholas wrote: post #2

The Github repo is here: https://github.com/apple/ml-mgie

I have an AWS account. Is there a type of EC2 instance I can fire up and run this thing on?

Inference should ideally be done on an instance with a GPU, and it should have enough GPU VRAM to hold the entire model. This one is only a 7b model, so it should run pretty easily in a modest amount of vram. You can likely run it locally in CPU-only mode, too, though it's likely to be rather slow.

https://instances.vantage.sh/?min_gpus=1 (wait for it to finish loading to filter)

You could try running these in Google Collab (though tweaks would have to be made to load the files), or you might try something like runpod.io, as well, which gets you GPU instances for a lot less than you'd pay with AWS - for example, a Tesla V100 (16GB) community cloud instance runs you $0.24/hr vs the g5g.xlarge which runs you $0.42/hr.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by Traubenfuchs » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:37 PM UTC

sigspec wrote: post #41

rchaud wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first This idea that Apple gets to things late to "perfect them" is an artifact of the iPod/iPhone era. Nothing Apple put out since then has met this bar. Apple does things low-key these days because it has to. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? A few memes was all it took to send everyone scurrying back to GMaps f…

Suggests what? SUGGESTS WHAT??? Apple must have got to him...

His LLM crashed or the connection was lost and the bot just posted all that was generated so far.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by gnicholas » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:40 PM UTC

roody15 wrote: post #33

MBCook wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when they didn’t have that garden. Look at the iPod. Other MP3 players existed, but flash media was too small. Other hard drive players existed, they were too big. And both had bad interfaces (by Apple standards). Apple didn’t show up until they could meet all their goals. They could have made a phone sooner, it wouldn’t have been the iPhone. They could have made a headset sooner, it wouldn’t be the Vision Pro.…

“They could have made a headset sooner, it wouldn’t be the Vision Pro“ Hmm I guess. Vision Pro seems rushed from vantage point. Odd battery pack … only 2 hour charge … limited field of vision. Also the screens that show a picture of your eyes are off putting and strange. Think Apple may have rushed here too quickly. We need more battery life.. think we may be looking more for an Augmented Reality mode which works on…

> Odd battery pack … only 2 hour charge

I agree that 3 would be nice, since it would get you through pretty much any movie, but I feel like when I'm watching a movie I don't mind plugging in. After all, I'm not likely moving around a whole bunch. I have USB-C plugs by my bed and near my couches, so it doesn't seem like this is a huge inconvenience (though it would be great if there were a "you're plugged in" warning if you start getting up while you're plugged to a wall).

But if the tradeoff is a heavier battery (or a more expensive device), I'm fine with 2 hours. No hot-swapping, that seems like a bigger miss! People don't want to shut down just to change battery packs.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by hinkley » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:41 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #35

ericmcer wrote: post #4

It feels like Apple has been very quiet about their approach in some of the future spaces (self-driving, VR/AR, AI) but then they suddenly burst out with something like Vision Pro. It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first. If they can produce a superior product their brand will let them dominate those markets whenever they decide to release.

> It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first This idea that Apple gets to things late to "perfect them" is an artifact of the iPod/iPhone era. Nothing Apple put out since then has met this bar. Apple does things low-key these days because it has to. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? A few memes was all it took to send everyone scurrying back to GMaps f…

iPad? Apple watch? Slim laptops (involving aircraft metallurgy tricks)?

Apple's been accused of copycatting practically since the beginning. But if you only copycat, you don't typically last this long. They can always offshore somewhere cheaper if you stand still long enough.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by JohnFen » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:43 PM UTC

ericmcer wrote: post #4

It feels like Apple has been very quiet about their approach in some of the future spaces (self-driving, VR/AR, AI) but then they suddenly burst out with something like Vision Pro. It seems like they are biding their time and avoiding the hype knowing that they don't need to get their first. If they can produce a superior product their brand will let them dominate those markets whenever they decide to release.

Apple has always been aware that "first mover advantage" is largely bullshit. "The pioneers get all the arrows." The sweet spot is to be second or third to market.

Re: Apple releases MGIE, an AI-based image editing model

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Post by pixl97 » Wed, Feb 07, 2024, 6:43 PM UTC

oldpersonintx wrote: post #19

rujkking wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone just noticed Apple’s decades old SOP. Watch the aggregate fumble about, fail over and over, then take the few ideas that survive rapid, aimless iteration attempts and add the last mile of polish. A decade of crappy Palm, WinCE, and easily forgotten Java based mobile devices came and went before iPhone. They know what software people refuse to accept; it’s the hardware experience that matters and they’ll wait…

Apple's real SOP is to make white males believe in the inevitability of Apple cultural dominance so they feel inclined to buy anything with the logo on it as a signal i.e. you convinced yourself Vision Pro was great before ever using it

>Apple customers demographics from 2019 show that about 51% of all iOS users were female, while 43% were male. Moreover, the percentage of female users in the US was 58%. While it’s a small majority, it is the only major smartphone vendor with a majority of female users.

Strage to point out white males in your statement.