Fake tracking numbers are a common occurrence in scams now. Somehow the scammers are getting access to a database of real time legitimate tracking numbers, they wait until there’s a shipment in their database going to the same city as the buyer, and then use that tracking number to claim that they shipped the package. Maybe they’re paying a real merchant for access to their shipping database? Or are UPS tracking numb…
I think the idea is the scammer just picks a random business in the area then ships them an empty box with a real tracking number.
How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
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Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#52> The next morning, I called PayPal and asked them how the seller could’ve opened a case on my behalf against themselves. They weren’t sure. That's scary :/
I think this is the worst part of the event. PayPal is the most annoying service I use because it asks for 2FA for every damn action. So how could they take that action? Surely if they logged in they left breadcrumbs? The post is mildly infuriating because it doesn’t even try to answer very important that question.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#53> I paid $1,030 using PayPal Stopped reading right there. I don't know why anyone thinks this kind of transaction will ever work out in their favor. FB Marketplace/Craigslist etc. are fine, but the golden rule is to use them for local, in-person, cash-only exchanges and nothing else.
You really shouldn't comment on posts you haven't even bothered to read.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been routine escrow mechanisms on bitcoin for 10 years? Its a very lucrative side business to operate those? They involve humans, they also involve multisignature accounts and smart contracts just like the white paper inspired or imagined 15 years ago. Its been one of the biggest boons for crypto native commerce, even when automated by the marketplace when the local government doesnt like a website they no…
>There have been routine escrow mechanisms on bitcoin for 10 years? Its a very lucrative side business to operate those? Are those questions?
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#55How did the scammer close the ticket? Zero day on Paypal? Unlikely for a lowly FB scammer to have this. SMS hijack? Unlikely the OP would have noticed. Phishing? Maybe… could have been a sophisticated phishing attack. Maybe using those fake package delivery SMS messages.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#56Been using Marketplace for 5 years with probably +100 items sold. Scammers in my experience usually exhibit these traits: * They have a new account, and have no Marketplace reviews. * They want it shipped and will pay extra for shipping. (While some real sellers will want it shipped, most will come by to pick it up.) * They do not try to low ball you or even negotiate. (Facebook sellers are notoriously cheap.) * Ther…
> I bought the camera from a profile that was created in 2017. They had some other things for sale, too. The account looked legit — lots of family photos and comments from family members.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#57Interesting story - I wonder how they managed to manipulate the Paypal account of the victim. Clearly Paypal has a problem there. But the other issue is that of general lawlessness and the fact that this scammer will get away with the attempted scamming, and probably do it to other people, too. For every person like the OP who manage, somehow, to protect themselves, there are 1000 others who don't. And there is the i…
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#58The web site I bought from was a single legitimate-looking veneer page with most of its content lifted from templates, and there was no functional tracking or order management anywhere, so I immediately e-mailed them asking to cancel the order, to which they replied that they that the product was "good quality", "you can rest assured that you have it", and that they would charge me a 5% fee to cancel. So I opened a case with PayPal and they closed it saying the transaction was "consistent with my purchase history", whatever that means. I appealed and they doubled down that it was not fraudulent. There are no more buttons to press at that point, but I wrote back again reiterating all of the evidence that they were actively providing a payment service to facilitate fraudulent transactions (the scammer was still around and still advertising the same fake products) and after a long period of silence I suddenly got a refund.
PayPal is not on your side as a customer, especially if you're dealing with a professional scammer who knows how to play the game and string things out. I suspect what happened here was that they got one too many complaints, and if they'd been a little less greedy or more careful, they would have walked away with the bag of money.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is the worst part of the event. PayPal is the most annoying service I use because it asks for 2FA for every damn action. So how could they take that action? Surely if they logged in they left breadcrumbs? The post is mildly infuriating because it doesn’t even try to answer very important that question.
This might be an option you turned on? I don't experience 2FA for paypal... But I'll probably go fix that today.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#60> (They asked early on for my phone number “for the tracking information,” which in retrospect doesn’t make a lot of sense.) When I have shipped parcels (legitimately to people I know personally), the courier services have a place on the form for phone numbers. And I do generally try to make sure I fill in an accurate phone number.