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Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

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Re: Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

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This may be a two edged sword. It also means that collecting data based on your IP is not an invasion of privacy. With IPv6 there is the potential for much finer grained assignment of IP addresses to such an extent that an IP address could become uniquely identified with an individual more readily than today.

Why do you think one of the early adopters of IPv6 was China :-(

Re: Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

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No, I'm implying the exact same mentality that shows how to hack computer programs isn't the one you use for the law. For all people mock the law, humans are involved, and the sort of transparent excuses that would easily fool a computer probably won't fool a judge for a second any more than it would fool a guy on the street. There are ways to hack the law, but it looks different.

Parent says "What if the business's purpose is to provide an open suburban hotspot?" You say: "excuses that would easily fool a computer probably won't fool a judge for a second any more than it would fool a guy on the street." I don't think it comes across as an excuse although prosecution would of course present it that way. There is certainly instances where someone would provide an open hotspot for neighbors. (My…

It has to pass the "resonable" test Jurys and some times Judges are much better at working out when some one is "taking the piss" which is the point that jerf is making.

Re: Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

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> I recommend you spend some time reading up on it I work for a portal that was recently acquired. The company who acquired the portal is, in part, owned by the same companies that own the telco that sold the portal, but the composition is different. I'm not even sure there are no cycles in the graph - it's perfectly possible some of the entities involved own themselves.

That's amusing. Can you have two companies that own each other? If so, how long does it take to finalize the books at tax time?

I wouldn't try to form such a short cycle, but it would be fun to form a series of other cycles with the ownership graph in such a way that drawing the graph would give the prospective investigator a congratulatory message ;-)

Re: Judge: An IP-Address Doesn’t Identify a Person (or BitTorrent Pirate)

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So is an Internet Cafe responsible for what all its patrons do? Is Verizon responsible for everyone who buys bandwidth from them?

I believe that common carriers are forced to comply with certain rules, so in a sense yes.

ISP's are not common carriers and have lobbied for decades to not be treated as common carriers because then they can't do deep packet inspection and they must sell equal service to anyone. If a drug smuggler drops a package in a mailbox the postal service is legally obligated to deliver it and not look inside (assuming it doesn't smell or tick). An ISP finds out someone is sharing their wifi with their neighbors, the ISP can cut service b/c of breach of terms of service.
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