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Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by flkiwi »

packetlost wrote: post #145
kevinmchugh wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of that is on mastodon fwiw, and some hasn't left Twitter

I've mostly been able to curate my Twitter feed to not include that stuff. Similarly for Mastodon. The problem is BlueSky tries to add algorithmic feeds while not doing it well enough to learn that I don't want to see it.

I tried to create a curated feed on Bluesky. It didn't go well. It interpreted my unambiguous keyword in the technology space as applying to content in the uh personal massage space. Much, much prefer Mastodon's direct hashtag following.

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Post by BryantD »

annexrichmond wrote: post #179

I selected my interests as Cooking, Fitness, Nature, Video Games, and my feed has absolutely none of that. Just random politics, activism, and jabs at Twitter. Anyway, nope.

I don't actually know how the interests are intended to work, but I can say that the key feature of Bluesky is feeds. (I know this isn't at all obvious.) Feeds are third-party created, for the most part, and essentially function as filters. So, for example, I follow a movies feed. Any post which includes the movie camera emoji, the word "filmsky", or a few other keywords is included in the movies feed. It makes it very easy to swipe over and see discussions of cinema.

That sounds (and is) a lot like tag-based feeds over on Twitter. However, there's additional potential. Behind the scenes, a feed is a service which takes the user info of the person viewing it and the firehose and decides which posts to include based on that input. So "include all posts with these keywords" is valid, but so is "include the top 100 posts with these keywords, as measured by likes." Or "show a feed including only the most recent post from every user the viewer follows."

In other words: feeds are the way a third party can build their own algorithm for the firehose. Very powerful, very useful.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by flkiwi »

Sol- wrote: post #47

Reading testimonials from people who seemingly enjoy Bluesky, it sounds like the main perk is its exclusiveness and feeling like the good old days when Twitter was just for hardcore social media nerds? Is that that a recipe for success and wouldn't opening up undermine it? I don't see how any Twitter clone would avoid the pitfalls that make social media like Twitter fundamentally annoying. It's not about the technolo…

My experience on Bluesky was:

1. A direct port of the ragescrolling, today's-main-character culture of twitter 2. Complaining about mastodon and linux on a premise I haven't been able to tease out but appears to relate to open projects being inherently untrustworthy and private projects that receive funding being trustworthy. 3. Hyping Bluesky's ease of use (it is identical to Mastodon in every meaningful respect, except where Mastodon offers some additional functionality like private posts).

I got out. I love a lot of the people that moved there, but the rage culture alone was what I originally left twitter to avoid. It's kind of a cultural AOL in the post-twitter-social space, with all that entails.

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Post by tcfhgj »

jeffbee wrote: post #58
Sol- wrote: post #47

Reading testimonials from people who seemingly enjoy Bluesky, it sounds like the main perk is its exclusiveness and feeling like the good old days when Twitter was just for hardcore social media nerds? Is that that a recipe for success and wouldn't opening up undermine it? I don't see how any Twitter clone would avoid the pitfalls that make social media like Twitter fundamentally annoying. It's not about the technolo…

I don't understand how people believe they just "end up" like that. You don't ever need to see celebrities and related junk online. Just follow your friends and don't follow anyone else.

Stuff like that is automatically shoved into your feed.

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Post by radlad »

cdchn wrote: post #166
radlad wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. Very excited for this - IMO, this is federated social media's biggest promise.

"We tag trolls so you don't have to."

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, so I'll explain further.

Currently, if you want to be part of a social network, your options are to opt-in to Zuckerberg's moderation or Musk's moderation.

It would be great if these were _actually_ opt-in (as in, you can be part of a social network without opting in to their moderation polices) and if you can use anyone's "moderation list."

I think ultimately this would allow for freer expression than exists on current social networks.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by pierat »

daveloyall wrote: post #154
jakebsky wrote: post #15

This is a big milestone for Bluesky! We've had the federation sandbox running for over six months but we're now able to commit to open federation on the production network this month as well. There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. The technical challenges of setting up an (efficiently) scalable decent…

Y'all let the public in before finishing your wait-list. I joined the list on 2023-03-02. Y'all didn't email me that signups were going to be public. Y'all didn't email me when signups actually went public. I found out about it here. ...And, let's see.. Yep, my handle is taken.

Well, join Mastodon! Find a community (server) that fits your liking and get your username! You can talk with anybody on other servers, but the one you choose is your homebase!

https://joinmastodon.org/servers

At least you're not succumbing to a commercial interest who will inevitably enshittify for eventual profit extraction.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by ipqk »

daveloyall wrote: post #154
jakebsky wrote: post #15

This is a big milestone for Bluesky! We've had the federation sandbox running for over six months but we're now able to commit to open federation on the production network this month as well. There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. The technical challenges of setting up an (efficiently) scalable decent…

Y'all let the public in before finishing your wait-list. I joined the list on 2023-03-02. Y'all didn't email me that signups were going to be public. Y'all didn't email me when signups actually went public. I found out about it here. ...And, let's see.. Yep, my handle is taken.

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.

On the other hand, the benefit of decentralized services is that your handle being taken shouldn't (eventually) matter, because you can just find another server.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by jeffbee »

tcfhgj wrote: post #186
jeffbee wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how people believe they just "end up" like that. You don't ever need to see celebrities and related junk online. Just follow your friends and don't follow anyone else.

Stuff like that is automatically shoved into your feed.

On what platform? It's not true on bsky or twitter.
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