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Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#151

The comic on this post is a whole lot of mess. Talking about moderation? Talking about "what if I want to leave"? Those sound like (1) work for me, and (2) why would I want to leave if it's so great? Uggh. And the fragmentation into silos continues.

>why would I want to leave if it's so great?

If you're on an instance in a federated network and the instance's admin decides that they don't want to keep hosting it, you don't really have an option to stay.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Sorry, this is a non-answer. Is there a business model in mind or not?

A bit macro and optimistic view about sustainability (in general, not specific to Bluesky): If everything goes according to the prediction of economists for 2024, a light crisis should decrease consumer confidence in the US. One of the solution to re-energize the economy might be to lower interest rates. Which means that if interest rates go down in 2024, companies are going to be able to borrow at extremely low cost…

Speaking as someone who has been stubbornly offering paid-for-access Mastodon/Lemmy/Matrix (and now Funkwhale) accounts at communick.com for 5+ years, I learned already that very few individuals are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Everyone loves to complain about the exploits of the tech companies, but no one really cares about paying for a service unless it gives some sense of exclusivity.

What is going to make or break the alternative social media networks is the institutions. If/When newspapers (not journalists) start setting up their own instances, if companies put up support accounts on their own domain, if influencers start mirroring their social accounts on their own sites to try to their push their own brand... then I'll start believing that we have a chance.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#154

This is a big milestone for Bluesky! We've had the federation sandbox running for over six months but we're now able to commit to open federation on the production network this month as well. There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. The technical challenges of setting up an (efficiently) scalable decent…

Y'all let the public in before finishing your wait-list. I joined the list on 2023-03-02.

Y'all didn't email me that signups were going to be public.

Y'all didn't email me when signups actually went public. I found out about it here.

...And, let's see.. Yep, my handle is taken.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#155
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Are there mobile apps for Blueky? When I type bluesky or bsky into f-droid, it comes up blank, and I'm not seeing a custom repository or even just an apk download mentioned on the website either. I thought it was like Mastodon except invite-only (till now), so was expecting a similar client ecosystem, but apparently it's more like Twitter was: open ecosystem closed software? Or is it like Tildes whose goal is to have…

There is an official mobile app for iOS and Android, on iOS there are also a few third party ones, not sure about Android.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Did you possibly enter the prefix +49 as part of the number? It seems to expect a number without the country prefix, starting with a number like "174" or whatever your provider prefix is...

I tried all sorts of variations of my number. It just won't take it. I expect their validation is wonky/buggy. I used to work for Nokia and remember talking to people responsible for parsing phone numbers. This is not a trivial problem. Anyway, it hard rejects +49176..., 0049176..., 0176..., 176...; it correctly normalizes each of those to +49176... and then rejects the number. My number is fine. Their validation isn…

Sorry about this. We've just made some changes to make this less likely of an issue going forward.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#158

Musk has done a lot of questionable things, but does anyone remember how actually unusable twitter was before the sale? Musk Twitter has its own set of problems but Jack has proved he has no idea what he's doing

… no? It was very usable before, it's much less usable now.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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We'll see! The history of funded companies popularizing open protocols is not without precedent. I'm inspired by Netscape, which was the VC-backed company that made the web happen.

Saying they "made the web happen" is just nonsense. They had one of several popular browsers, and one of several popular web servers. As much as I stayed up late to download new Netscape betas, had they never existed the web would still be just fine, and the customers of the ISP I ran at the time would have just used another browser.

Hmmmm. I would argue the web would have been significanty different. There was a fairly big gap between Mosaic and Internet Explorer that Netscape filled and it was the period that largely defined the web as it came to be.

Since IE was developed specifically to counter the threat of Netscape - it was also defined by Netscape.

What other browsers of note were around in that period?

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#160

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Doesn't this go against the comic in the post that claims that it's easy to block what you don't want to see? Also that it's an open network? Why not just let everyone in if the moderation tools are good? I definitely would never give my phone number to a social network.

The SMS verification requirement is only for the Bluesky operated PDS host. Soon (this month) it will be possible for others to self-host their own PDS hosts that do not have this requirement.

how will the bluesky PDS deal with the flood of spammers on malicious PDSs, like, why is the phone number a useful gatekeeping tool if you're just going to fling open the gates at the end of the month?
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