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Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by jakebsky »

marxisttemp wrote: post #29
jakebsky wrote: post #15

This is a big milestone for Bluesky! We've had the federation sandbox running for over six months but we're now able to commit to open federation on the production network this month as well. There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. The technical challenges of setting up an (efficiently) scalable decent…

Why not use ActivityPub? Why should we trust Dorsey again? What is one good reason to use Bluesky over Mastodon?

1. "Account portability is the major reason why we chose to build a separate protocol. We consider portability to be crucial because it protects users from sudden bans, server shutdowns, and policy disagreements."

https://atproto.com/guides/faq

2. Jack Dorsey is on the board but has no day-to-day role in the company. Jay Graber is the CEO of Bluesky and is in control. The protocol is also designed not to require trust. The network is being "locked open" in a way that would allow it to survive Bluesky becoming evil.

3. Bluesky has a different approach in many ways. One of the biggest differences is that Bluesky is (IMHO) the first decentralized social network that is highly usable by regular non-technical users.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by zimpenfish »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #21
the_duke wrote: post #11

I feel like this would have been a lot more impactful a year ago, when the Twitter drama was in full swing. Feedback: the homepage looks more like a tech product pitch site, and the announcement post also doesn't look very polished. I guess the target for Bluesky isn't so much the "regular Facebook/Twitter/IG user", more the nerd. Side question: what's the interop story between Bluesky and Mastodon now?

I am not sure, during the Twitter drama was in full swing Meta tried to launch an alternative, and how long did it last? A couple of weeks? I think social sector is filled, with boomers on facebook, cool people on instagram, kids on tiktok, woke on twitter, meme people on reddit?

> Meta tried to launch an alternative, and how long did it last? A couple of weeks?

If you mean Threads, it's currently up to 130M monthly active users[0]. Estimates for Twitter late 2023-early 2024 are between 350-400M MAU.

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/01/threads-now-reaches-more-1...

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Post by miroljub »

Mistletoe wrote: post #22
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #16

How many social networks recently, Lemmy? The other one with crypto guys? This one? It's 2005 all over again? I am wondering if it's either because it's a relatively easy thing to code or because investors are likely to throw money at it?

Probably because we need new ones badly. Reddit and Twitter are two sinking bot-infested enshittification ships and we need a new place to go. Network lock-in is proving to be a very difficult nut to crack in the dystopia we have created though. You need people to jump ship but no one wants to go where the millions of eyes aren’t.

Why do you think any halfway popular social network won't be infested with bots and commercalizers?

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by jakebsky »

paxys wrote: post #40

Pretty ironic that when Twitter was imploding Meta launched a competitor that was fully compatible with ActivityPub/Mastodon while the team dedicated to building an open competitor (Bluesky) created a proprietary protocol that nobody uses.

Threads has been promising to integrate with ActivityPub since it launched. To date they've done very little and their timeline extends until the end of 2024.

I'd personally be very happy if Threads gives up control over their users but it remains to be seen. ActivityPub also lacks the very strong account portability feature that made AT Protocol necessary.

AT Protocol is completely open source and the Bluesky network is completely open. The Bluesky network has had an open API for a year with full access to all public data (no auth required):

    websocat wss://bsky.network/xrpc/com.atproto.sync.subscribeRepos
More info on: https://atproto.com

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by Kye »

jakebsky wrote: post #15

This is a big milestone for Bluesky! We've had the federation sandbox running for over six months but we're now able to commit to open federation on the production network this month as well. There's also stackable moderation coming shortly, which enables other individuals/orgs to operate moderation labeling services that users can choose to use. The technical challenges of setting up an (efficiently) scalable decent…

What's the thinking on BGSes? I haven't seen much talk of who's expected to run them or what they'll look like, but they seem to be the linchpin of reliable data portability.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by kevinmchugh »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #16

How many social networks recently, Lemmy? The other one with crypto guys? This one? It's 2005 all over again? I am wondering if it's either because it's a relatively easy thing to code or because investors are likely to throw money at it?

More, smaller networks seems like a big improvement over a handful of too-big, everyone's-there networks.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by Sol- »

Reading testimonials from people who seemingly enjoy Bluesky, it sounds like the main perk is its exclusiveness and feeling like the good old days when Twitter was just for hardcore social media nerds? Is that that a recipe for success and wouldn't opening up undermine it?

I don't see how any Twitter clone would avoid the pitfalls that make social media like Twitter fundamentally annoying. It's not about the technology or being federated or not, but about such internet-scale communities just not working well. You'll always end up with online drama about the silliest things and terminally online power users.

Everybody hates Discord, but I think more communities should strive towards isolating themselves from the broader net to keep conversations civil.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

paxys wrote: post #40

Pretty ironic that when Twitter was imploding Meta launched a competitor that was fully compatible with ActivityPub/Mastodon while the team dedicated to building an open competitor (Bluesky) created a proprietary protocol that nobody uses.

Did threads launch with compatibility? Because I know a lot of “nsfw” creators that choose Bluesky over Threads because threads rules over NSFW content.

Bluesky wasted a few opportunities they could have grabbed market share from Twitter simply because a) you needed and account to view posts (now fixed) b) you needed a code to sign up (now fixed).

But has their ship sailed? L

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

I'm glad this happened as late as it did and that Threads absorbed the FB/IG people first. Let Twitter/Threads remain the home for the influencers, spammers, the eternal September. Hopefully Bluesky continues to attract a steady stream of early adopters but the followers never take over.
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