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Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by thriftwy »

medstrom wrote: post #314
thriftwy wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I don't struggle to imagine how Eastern Europeans loved Russia, Soviet Union and Communism just 40 years back. 80 years back, Eastern Europeans just loved Germany and Hitler. Now they are huge fans of the USA. This time it's for real. Genuine Eastern European feeling and honest hatred for everybody who came before. The problem with most Eastern Europeans is that they'll sing and dance on anybody's 5 cents. Yo…

Oh, loyalties? Do you know Russia is committed to defend Armenia thru the CSTO, but apparently just said meh and now Armenia is on their own?

Armenia has suffered a national tragedy which they then turned into circus by their accusations against Russia. They neither recognized Karabakh as their own nor did they put up a serious fight. But they can's shut up telling everybody how they expected somebody else to fight instead of them.

Still, Russians did not write Armenia off completely even after all this.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by twixfel »

thriftwy wrote: post #294
twixfel wrote: post #291

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Czechs were only part of the Russian Empire for about 45 years, and only in the 20th century. Could have been worse. I think you just struggle to understand how fundamentally your country is hated by Eastern Europeans. Russia is like Germany, if Germany still was proud of its Nazi heritage. You just don't get it, it's sad, you're so hated but you have no idea why, you're just so blinded by ultranationalism. Russia co…

I think I don't struggle to imagine how Eastern Europeans loved Russia, Soviet Union and Communism just 40 years back. 80 years back, Eastern Europeans just loved Germany and Hitler. Now they are huge fans of the USA. This time it's for real. Genuine Eastern European feeling and honest hatred for everybody who came before. The problem with most Eastern Europeans is that they'll sing and dance on anybody's 5 cents. Yo…

Lol. Like I said, you just don't get it. The Russian slave mentality is as strong as ever.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by user3939382 »

kornhole wrote: post #254
Throw73747 wrote: post #28

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Not just that. Russia is going to confiscate all Western assets in Russia as a counter measure. Valued roughly at 200B USD, mainly owned by EU countries. Yandex would lose their Russian business in any case.

That is a threat if the West confiscates Russian assets that have been frozen, Russia will retaliate in kind. https://www.rt.com/russia/591905-russia-asset-seizure-warnin...

Yeah GP comment is missing context for many readers that Western leaders are contemplating stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of Russia’s money.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by user3939382 »

lykahb wrote: post #255

Any large business in Russia cannot exist independently of the state - even if the relationship is informal. Particularly, if the company is related to mass media and surveillance. Yandex is a state-controlled company even if the legal structure doesn't indicate this. I would interpret this divestment as Russian intention to use Yandex as a tool for doing foreign influence, similar to RT or their social networks mani…

> > Any large business in Russia cannot exist independently of the state

Meanwhile US congress is 100% captured by corporate interests, especially the arms industry.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by user3939382 »

EasyMark wrote: post #311
lykahb wrote: post #255

Any large business in Russia cannot exist independently of the state - even if the relationship is informal. Particularly, if the company is related to mass media and surveillance. Yandex is a state-controlled company even if the legal structure doesn't indicate this. I would interpret this divestment as Russian intention to use Yandex as a tool for doing foreign influence, similar to RT or their social networks mani…

Yeah I can't imagine the Russian police state passing up on eavesdropping on all search and activity there, it's simply too valuable as an intelligence asset and there is nothing that any yandex employees residing in Russia could do about it without risking being imprisoned/disappeared

We set a good example with our NSA data center in Utah siphoning off the data of all Americans.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by reisse »

tim333 wrote: post #307
reisse wrote: post #119

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Ex-CEO of Russian Yandex made a post in an internal network explaining she moved to Israel, and, among other things, saying "I don't want to live in a country waging wars with its neighbours (sic)". I wonder if she understood her own hypocrisy.

That was in March 2022, before the recent stuff kicked off.

"Recent stuff" has little to do with the hypocrisy of this statement.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by ephemeral-life »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #123
jszymborski wrote: post #101

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All their Russian offices were closed, including sales and R&D activities. https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2022/12/06/update-on-jetbrai...

"We managed to move out the majority of our people from Russia." Much respect to these guys for their principled stand. Ok, I had let my CLion subscription lapse because I didn't like where they were going with the RustRover/CLion split (I do both C++ and Rust work, and would prefer one tool). But this may make me reconsider.

Also much more respect to the employees. They left their home because of geopolitics and work.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by tim333 »

reisse wrote: post #346
tim333 wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was in March 2022, before the recent stuff kicked off.

"Recent stuff" has little to do with the hypocrisy of this statement.

The statement was present tense. I don't think there were wars being waged at the time. Also when coalition of dictators A say they want to wipe small democratic country B off the map and attack it then I'm not sure A and B are equivalent and moving from an A to a B is hypocrisy.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by medstrom »

thriftwy wrote: post #341
medstrom wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, loyalties? Do you know Russia is committed to defend Armenia thru the CSTO, but apparently just said meh and now Armenia is on their own?

Armenia has suffered a national tragedy which they then turned into circus by their accusations against Russia. They neither recognized Karabakh as their own nor did they put up a serious fight. But they can's shut up telling everybody how they expected somebody else to fight instead of them. Still, Russians did not write Armenia off completely even after all this.

That "writing them off completely" is even on the table shows that this "ability to loyalty" is BS. It's like if you have a boyfriend that say "well, at least I won't leave you over this" every day. Don't make you feel very secure do it?

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by zaphirplane »

tim333 wrote: post #348
reisse wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Recent stuff" has little to do with the hypocrisy of this statement.

The statement was present tense. I don't think there were wars being waged at the time. Also when coalition of dictators A say they want to wipe small democratic country B off the map and attack it then I'm not sure A and B are equivalent and moving from an A to a B is hypocrisy.

making up facts, denying one’s behavior and measuring on the greater evil scale, is not the behavior of the good
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