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Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by EasyMark »

lykahb wrote: post #255

Any large business in Russia cannot exist independently of the state - even if the relationship is informal. Particularly, if the company is related to mass media and surveillance. Yandex is a state-controlled company even if the legal structure doesn't indicate this. I would interpret this divestment as Russian intention to use Yandex as a tool for doing foreign influence, similar to RT or their social networks mani…

Yeah I can't imagine the Russian police state passing up on eavesdropping on all search and activity there, it's simply too valuable as an intelligence asset and there is nothing that any yandex employees residing in Russia could do about it without risking being imprisoned/disappeared

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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kergonath wrote: post #304
thriftwy wrote: post #287

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> who had been living under Russian tyranny for several centuries Most of these countries Russia never touched, or fought off of Turks and then let them be. They never lived under Russia's anything . Were it Czechs live under several centuries of Russian tyranny? Because these ones are particularly obnoxious now, despite many years of feeding off of Russian statesmen in Karlovy Vary. I don't think you even remotely u…

> Most of these countries Russia never touched, or fought off of Turks and then let them be. Does the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact ring any bell? Do you know what the Baltic states went through? Did you hear about the Prague spring or that glorious sister republic in eastern Germany? Fuck, do you know about the Holodomor? It’s a bit rich to say these countries never knew Russian oppression. It may not have lasted very lon…

I'm not sure what's wrong with socialist Czech or DDR. They've got the Communism lite try before you buy inoculated package and now they squeal like a pig being butchered. Russians saw many orders of magnitude worse things than any of the stuff DDR or Soviet Czech was up to. The way Eastern Europeans are trying to show how they require special treatment is a disgrace to any Russian. They literally complain how Soviets curbed their access to white privilege they were entitled to.

XX century was a disaster, you had to grind your teeth and survive through it. Holodomor is a pathetic Ukrainian attempt to privatize a much greater Communist hunger and frame it on its victims. They do so because they believe that they should get a specific, better treatment than everybody east of them. Rings any bells?

Needless to say Russians did not invent Communism and you can find a huge number of fans for it in any HN thread. Russians sincerely believed they have a traumatic experience of struggle to share with the rest of "socialist camp" only to discover that the whole 500 million strong camp frames it on their small ethnic fraction.

Belarus is a paradise now compared to Ukraine (and to extent Russia). You can do whatever you like and there is no fear of draft. There are also jobs and industry intact. You can cross the border if you are male but is not economically obliged to do so.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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The_Colonel wrote: post #231
snird wrote: post #202

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The massacre was in Israel, when Hamas mass raped and murdered Israelis. What happens in Gaza is a justified war to prevent such attacks from occuring again.

Israeli invasion killed alread > 1% of total population of Gaza, further 2-3% have been iniured. According to you, did Israel get a blank check? Are they justified to do literally anything? Whst if the killed percentage will go to 5, 10 %. Still fine?

What do you expect them to do? Throw up their arms and let Hamas continue to lob bombs into Israel for the next 500 years? I think they are trying to balance casualty minimization vs the troops dying on the ground. I know which one that any country will likely do. The Gazans could speed up the demise of Hamas by helping the Israel troops root out the terrorists but at least 75% still continue to support Hamas being Hamas.

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Post by medstrom »

thriftwy wrote: post #294
twixfel wrote: post #291

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Czechs were only part of the Russian Empire for about 45 years, and only in the 20th century. Could have been worse. I think you just struggle to understand how fundamentally your country is hated by Eastern Europeans. Russia is like Germany, if Germany still was proud of its Nazi heritage. You just don't get it, it's sad, you're so hated but you have no idea why, you're just so blinded by ultranationalism. Russia co…

I think I don't struggle to imagine how Eastern Europeans loved Russia, Soviet Union and Communism just 40 years back. 80 years back, Eastern Europeans just loved Germany and Hitler. Now they are huge fans of the USA. This time it's for real. Genuine Eastern European feeling and honest hatred for everybody who came before. The problem with most Eastern Europeans is that they'll sing and dance on anybody's 5 cents. Yo…

Oh, loyalties? Do you know Russia is committed to defend Armenia thru the CSTO, but apparently just said meh and now Armenia is on their own?

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Post by EasyMark »

charcircuit wrote: post #279
kristiandupont wrote: post #176

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What are those searches? I am curious because I've used reverse image search 3-4 times in my life. It's just not something I think of..

The most normal use case is finding the original, higher resolution version of an image.

this is 90% of what I use it for as well. Sometimes I'll use it to track down a meme image as well

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Post by EasyMark »

RicoElectrico wrote: post #99
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #13

>(Russian Google) Are there people here who don't know Yandex? Genuinely curious, if you didn't know what it is I'd like to hear from you.

Despite HN guidelines "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" people are generally not curious about what is going on outside their country (+US).

This is 100% incorrect.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by khokhol »

thriftwy wrote: post #312
kergonath wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of these countries Russia never touched, or fought off of Turks and then let them be. Does the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact ring any bell? Do you know what the Baltic states went through? Did you hear about the Prague spring or that glorious sister republic in eastern Germany? Fuck, do you know about the Holodomor? It’s a bit rich to say these countries never knew Russian oppression. It may not have lasted very lon…

I'm not sure what's wrong with socialist Czech or DDR. They've got the Communism lite try before you buy inoculated package and now they squeal like a pig being butchered. Russians saw many orders of magnitude worse things than any of the stuff DDR or Soviet Czech was up to. The way Eastern Europeans are trying to show how they require special treatment is a disgrace to any Russian. They literally complain how Soviet…

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Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by EasyMark »

brnt wrote: post #43
ssijak wrote: post #6

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You can refuse, but then your chance of dying by "falling off the balcony" goes up dramatically.

In my circles, the joke is having heart attacks while shooting oneself in the back after falling out of windows.

You forgot the polonium pain meds

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by khzw8yyy »

The_Colonel wrote: post #269
thriftwy wrote: post #259

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If these countries are "armed to the teeth", Russia will invade some of these countries. Both sides will point fingers at each other while some Eastern European homes burn. Eventually the prospect of horrible death while grasping the Western-provided arms will dissuade these countries from being armed to the teeth. I sincerely believe the preferred lifestyle of Eastern Europeans is sitting on a porch of their nice ti…

Good that we established who was, is, and will be the aggressor. I'm looking forward to the mental gymnastics about those who invade being actually the ones who defend themselves. As is the tradition in the Russian propaganda, invasion of Finland, Baltics, Poland etc. were all just defensive wars. But I'm more optimistic about that and don't believe your empty threats. If the NATO strengthens its eastern border, Russ…

All small countries are someone's puppets. The US tried to take a puppet state away from Russia and somewhat succeeded so far.

The first move was at the end of the Cold War. The drunken President Yeltsin took the existing administrative map of the USSR and created a new state that had artificially attached Russian regions. This set up the time delay fuse. Second was the US-backed coup in 2014. And third - what we have today. The US is good at playing the long game. Only China is better.

Downvote away, it seems to make you happy. But maybe before you write this off as "Russian propaganda" go read what Solzhenitsyn had to say on the subject. Yes, that Solzhenitsyn, the dissident who wrote "Ivan Denisovich".

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by EasyMark »

thriftwy wrote: post #18
H8crilA wrote: post #4

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Weird accounting tricks in Russia include "the new nobility" making you offers that you cannot refuse. This is a country in which the FSB (equivalent of the FBI) is running their own protection rackets, even on a small scale of a local shop. Property law works very differently over there, which is to say it doesn't quite exist.

Volozh could stay in Moscow and keep Yandex, though he was not acting CEO for some time. But, he decided he prefers Israel (residing "behind the bump" in general sense). In modern political climate, you have to choose between having your pie and eating it.

I think it's like a good survival tactic as well. Known by the old saying Бери деньги и беги
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