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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by t0bia_s »

Daz1 wrote: post #450
mdavidn wrote: post #331

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"Stole" isn't the right word either. Pirating does not deprive any legal entity of ownership. It's merely copyright infringement. It also likely circumvented access controls, thereby running afoul of DMCA. But it is not theft. I'm speaking as someone who also never pirates. I'd rather not watch something and spend my time doing something else.

It is absolutely theft, nobody is falling for that semantics argument - you're depriving a rights holder of revenue that they would otherwise gained.

"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by cableshaft »

prmoustache wrote: post #513
TeMPOraL wrote: post #309

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It's weird because TV is also culture . Game of Thrones isn't just some random piece of personal, single-player entertainment: it was, and is, an important cultural phenomenon for at least half of the planet. That's what makes the dynamics so weird: it's not just, or even primarily, about your personal entertainment - there are social aspects involved, from wanting to belong with your peer group (e.g. talk about late…

> It's weird because TV is also culture. Game of Thrones isn't just some random piece of personal, single-player entertainment: it was, and is, an important cultural phenomenon for at least half of the planet. > > That's what makes the dynamics so weird: it's not just, or even primarily, about your personal entertainment - there are social aspects involved, from wanting to belong with your peer group (e.g. talk about…

> OTOH if you don't have that in common with other people, you just talk about other things.

What, you mean like babies and mortgages and bills and restaurants and health problems and gossip? I mean I can enjoy talking about those as well to an extent, but at times I like to change it up a bit.

For a lot of people I know, that's all I really have in common with them, besides geek shit. There was like a solid 45 minutes of me sitting quietly at a New Year's Eve party recently, because everyone else started going into all the Marvel and Star Wars TV shows they watched, of which I've mostly skipped (except Loki and a couple seasons of Mandalorian).

For the people who don't even have interests in geek shit, it seems like they're often very limited to the other topics above (or the other topics plus sports if they're into those). At least the people I've encountered.

It's not like I don't have other interests. I have a lot of creative interests, like making games, and writing, and (very amateur) photography, and music. But a lot of adults don't bother with that stuff (or don't bother anymore, at least), and mostly just consume the creative output of others.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by walteweiss »

js2 wrote: post #433
walteweiss wrote: post #421

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What is an HDMI dummy plug? I read the description, but didn’t get it. What does it do?

It makes the source think there is a display connected by responding with an EDID block. It may also handle the HDCP negotiation but I'm not sure about that. Technically an unlicensed device isn't supposed to be able to implement HDCP so while the Chinese manufacturers are totally willing to skirt around that, they also don't go advertising it.

But why would one need it? I don’t get get idea behind it, what’s with me having a fake extra display? Is it somehow tricks the DRM or what?

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Post by [deleted] »

humpydumpy wrote: post #795
HumblyTossed wrote: post #203

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So pay for several services and then pirate the content because it’s just more convenient. Best of both worlds. You’ve paid and you get the content in the form(s) you need.

and you have finanically supported services that offer shitty usability

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Post by raffraffraff »

izacus wrote: post #495
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Yeah, also pirated content has: - 4K HDR video, not whatever the heck the buggy client delivers. - Atmos/TrueHD audio track that actually works, not whatever the broken app delivers (I'm looking at you Sky and rest of the ilk that still deliver HBO content with stereo). - Subtitles for ALL the languages, not just one or two. And those languages don't disappear when I go on a vacation, leaving me stuck with german aud…

Also: pirated content is usually available. There have been so many times my wife has spent 15 minutes on imdb searching for something to watch, but then we check where it's available and ... it's only available via torrent.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by HumblyTossed »

humpydumpy wrote: post #795
HumblyTossed wrote: post #203

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So pay for several services and then pirate the content because it’s just more convenient. Best of both worlds. You’ve paid and you get the content in the form(s) you need.

and you have finanically supported services that offer shitty usability

It's going to be shitty if I pay or not. Probably even shittier if I don't pay. Either way, I've solutioned around that problem.

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Post by godshatter »

cocoa19 wrote: post #22
jerjerjer wrote: post #12

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Streaming also had no ads which is now gated behind even more pricey plans.

Low price and no ads were two of the main selling points to ditch cable (along with stream whenever you want). We reached the point were price is almost as high as cable was (with the standard 4-5 subscriptions), and we have ads. This is not a surprise to most though, the question has always been when would it happen.

> We reached the point were price is almost as high as cable was (with the standard 4-5 subscriptions), and we have ads.

I wonder if entertainment brand loyalty is going to be affected by the diversification of streaming services. I only have Netflix and Amazon Prime (only because I already pay for Prime) and I have no desire to add another streaming service for another show or franchise. I'm happy to just consume what I can find on those two services and call it good. At what point does the desire to watch a specific TV series or movie franchise stop being worth the cost of yet another service?

But then I'm an atypical customer since I only watch maybe 4 hours of content a week on average, at most.

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Post by mambru »

izacus wrote: post #508
martindbp wrote: post #419

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> The services have taken the piss and now they'll get the repercussions of it. Whose fault is it really that all content is not available on a single service? It's nobody's fault, it was inevitable given how things work. How could you "fix" it? You'd need legislation saying that all content must be made available for licensing at the same price for every service. But that's not enough, because why would HBO sell the…

FRAND licensing is a thing. And forcefully splitting playback/delivery and content creation would create a much healthier market where content companies have interested in distributing their content to as many streaming services as possible to get revenue - e.g. see the situation with audio playback. With Spotify/YTM/Tidal being separate from music labels, there's much MUCH less of this exclusivity BS.

Came here to say this.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by Synaesthesia »

shafyy wrote: post #668
Synaesthesia wrote: post #633

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Torrents

Cool! Is Popcorn time still recommended? Or what's a good client?

On Mac, Transmission. On Windows, QBittorrent.

Then I just search on various torrent sites. Thepiratebay.org and rutracker.org (use google). But movies and TV shows are easy to find. There are many sites which specialise in it.

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