Safetyism killed playtime • Hacker News Board

Re: Safetyism killed playtime

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Post by freitzkriesler2 » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 12:33 AM UTC

acuozzo wrote: post #127

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your memory must be bad because I remember cars driving down my suburban street at highway speeds in the mid 90s. The lesson imparted as a kid was to always look both ways, assume no one sees you, and get in and out quickly. If you haven’t taught your kids to not impulsively run after balls into streets, that’s on you. Even my 3 year old knows better than to walk into a street after a ball. I literally watched him st…

> If you haven’t taught your kids to not impulsively run after balls into streets, that’s on you. I have. My children aren't perfect. They make mistakes like most children do. I'm glad to read that your three year old does not. That's awesome! I'd love for my children to never fall prey to their own impulsivity. The inner peace from having successfully imparted computer-like unwavering conscientiousness to your child…

They’re pretty good. Maybe spend less time being a NIMBY and more time raising your kids and you’ll find they too can do impressive things.

Re: Safetyism killed playtime

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Post by Mawr » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:59 AM UTC

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #37

acuozzo wrote: post #22

I know the article focuses on the UK and what I'm about to state has little to do with the UK, but as a suburban US dad with three children I feel compelled to share that drivers are what keep me from feeling comfortable letting my seven and four year old play outside unsupervised. I've seen so many incidents of (young?) drivers tearing through sleepy suburban streets at highway speeds here in Maryland that I specifi…

Your memory must be bad because I remember cars driving down my suburban street at highway speeds in the mid 90s. The lesson imparted as a kid was to always look both ways, assume no one sees you, and get in and out quickly. If you haven’t taught your kids to not impulsively run after balls into streets, that’s on you. Even my 3 year old knows better than to walk into a street after a ball. I literally watched him st…

Teaching every single kid to be cautious doesn't scale. Kids are inherently irresponsible anyway and it's not like cars only kill kids either.

> Yes, drivers should slow down in neighborhoods

They shouldn't. If they need to consciously do anything in the first place then the street design is unsafe.

Interestingly, humans have keen senses of danger. Think of crossing a wide and straight two-lane street with cars parked alongside it vs a narrow, winding one-way one with no street parking.

For example, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh4H9qZ-_6Y&t=195s

Re: Safetyism killed playtime

#153

Post by acuozzo » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 6:53 PM UTC

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #151

acuozzo wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you haven’t taught your kids to not impulsively run after balls into streets, that’s on you. I have. My children aren't perfect. They make mistakes like most children do. I'm glad to read that your three year old does not. That's awesome! I'd love for my children to never fall prey to their own impulsivity. The inner peace from having successfully imparted computer-like unwavering conscientiousness to your child…

They’re pretty good. Maybe spend less time being a NIMBY and more time raising your kids and you’ll find they too can do impressive things.

Will do.

I hope for the sake of those around you that your child(ren) never run afoul of your expectations as "My children would never…" parents are a special breed of annoying, nearly as much as "I raised my obviously-better-than-your-children child to…" parents.

I think it's the mixture of a general lack of exposure to reality in addition to harboring the mistaken belief that their method of parenting is superior which makes them so annoying.

It's almost as if they think their advice is universally applicable and failure to implement it is somehow a personal failing in every instance, much like those pig-headed folk refusing to acknowledge the systemic issues behind poverty, insisting instead that every poor person is poor from a lack or work ethic or gumption.

Thankfully, many people grow up and eventually stop trying to use (not-so-)universally-applicable advice as a cudgel, preferring instead to interpret the complaints of those around them in the most charitable light since, after all, asking "Did you try raising your children right?" is as useless and demeaning as asking "Did you try turning the computer off and on again?".

Re: Safetyism killed playtime

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Post by freitzkriesler2 » Sun, Feb 04, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

acuozzo wrote: post #153

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re pretty good. Maybe spend less time being a NIMBY and more time raising your kids and you’ll find they too can do impressive things.

Will do. I hope for the sake of those around you that your child(ren) never run afoul of your expectations as "My children would never…" parents are a special breed of annoying, nearly as much as "I raised my obviously-better-than-your-children child to…" parents. I think it's the mixture of a general lack of exposure to reality in addition to harboring the mistaken belief that their method of parenting is superior w…

You wrote several paragraphs when what you said could be summed up as, “I’m lazy and look to shift the blame of my circumstances onto others because I can’t be arsed to take control of the hand I’ve got and run with it.”

And PS, turning it off and on again solves almost every electronic problem. So yes, do try raising your children right.