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Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

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Post by gryzzly »

enterprise_cog wrote: post #28
gryzzly wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want you to answer me, which bits are untrue in the following report: https://www.rootsmetals.com/blogs/news/unrwa-an-update Is it quotes of UN managers who say “being part of hamas is not a crime” in 2004? or is it the videos of UN equipment being used by terrorists during October 7? or the videos of hostages from the personal phones of UN workers? Please enlighten us!

Hamas has political orgs as well as militant, so that page isn’t the own you think it is. Not to mention why are you bringing up things from 20 years ago to try and prove a point about something now? Edit: actually read it all and there is zero evidence provided. She says citations in her insta or patreon but there is nothing there. This is straight up hasbara propaganda.

you are also a Russian appeaser, really no sense in talking to hamas-russia supporter. you might be on Iran’s pay check – spreading your axis-of-evil bullshit.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#42

Post by enterprise_cog »

gryzzly wrote: post #35
enterprise_cog wrote: post #29

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so all the governments i listed are just using a bogus paper and just change their many decades long policy of providing unrwa with money? you are into conspiracy theories i assume?

Why didn’t Spain or Norway stop? Why has the US said it never confirmed the Israeli info? Yes they did it on bogus info. Same way the US blindly believed the lies about bases under hospitals or Biden repeated the lies about beheaded babies.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#43

Post by enterprise_cog »

gryzzly wrote: post #40
enterprise_cog wrote: post #30

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Your first link is some random opinion piece with zero evidence provided. Why are you posting that?

your answers are useless thoughtless blabbering without touching on any of the points, why are you posting this?

There is nothing to comment on. It’s an opinion piece making claims with no evidence. Try and post real things and you’ll get real comments.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#44

Post by enterprise_cog »

gryzzly wrote: post #41
enterprise_cog wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hamas has political orgs as well as militant, so that page isn’t the own you think it is. Not to mention why are you bringing up things from 20 years ago to try and prove a point about something now? Edit: actually read it all and there is zero evidence provided. She says citations in her insta or patreon but there is nothing there. This is straight up hasbara propaganda.

you are also a Russian appeaser, really no sense in talking to hamas-russia supporter. you might be on Iran’s pay check – spreading your axis-of-evil bullshit.

I love zionists like you. Your claims are so deranged to any normal person, but you lack the self awareness to see just how unhinged you sound.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#45

Post by cooloo »

enterprise_cog wrote: post #42
gryzzly wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so all the governments i listed are just using a bogus paper and just change their many decades long policy of providing unrwa with money? you are into conspiracy theories i assume?

Why didn’t Spain or Norway stop? Why has the US said it never confirmed the Israeli info? Yes they did it on bogus info. Same way the US blindly believed the lies about bases under hospitals or Biden repeated the lies about beheaded babies.

Spain and Norway are terrorists supporters.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#46

Post by cooloo »

cykros wrote: post #33
gryzzly wrote: post #19

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A relief agency that employs terrorists is being held to an impossible standard you think? It’s an impossible standard to not hire people who kill, kidnap and rape? And btw, 12 out 12000 is 0,1%. Also, it’s more like 10% btw, and 50% having personal family ties to Hamas.

If we're not funding and arming organizations known for killing, kidnapping, and raping, I'm glad to hear the IDF will not longer be receiving arms manufactured in the US and UK. Meanwhile, it's amusing the rape claims keep coming, even though not one woman has actually claimed that she was raped. But sure, it was widespread. Most certainly near the pile of 40 beheaded babies. Except, whoops, Haaretz reported the lis…

You are on Palestinians propaganda payroll.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#47

Post by gryzzly »

cykros wrote: post #34
gryzzly wrote: post #23

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so do you think that in a family where father is launching rockets indiscriminately at people, the mom will be teaching children about coexistance and building a peace loving community?

When you're facing an illegal occupation, firing rockets back is called resistance, and there's a reason it is widely recognized as legitimate. As for how indiscriminate it is, hard to take seriously from someone who's defending a regime that has actively carpet bombed cities for the past 4 months.

if israel “carpet bombed cities” how many victims would there be? you are a hate inciting antisemite

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#48

Post by cykros »

gryzzly wrote: post #6
ametrau wrote: post #2

> Israel declassified an intelligence dossier detailing how the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency has allegedly been compromised by Hamas. This they have intel on. Other things... ah... they just didn't.

what are you implying? that Israel purposefully killed Palestinians? I’m curious there – if you are caring about innocent Arab lives – what other human suffering in Arab countries are you following closely and making cynical remarks about?

Simple answer there: the countries where that suffering is being carried out by institutions armed and funded by my tax dollars.

As soon as the American military assets are pulled from the region, Israel is welcome to try their luck with their neighbors (I'm actually eager to see it at this point, considering they lost to Hezbollah alone in 2006). Until then, they should get used to us caring about what atrocities our tax dollars are funding.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#49

Post by runarberg »

gryzzly wrote: post #39
enterprise_cog wrote: post #31

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They have and are killing Palestinians on purpose. You don’t kill 30k+ and displace millions by not doing that. You don’t murder civilians carrying white flags if you’re not trying to kill them.

You are a demonising antisemite, that’s all. I wish for your family to never have to run to the bomb shelters or bury a relative who was killed by a terrorist.

Your parent was only ever talking about the state of Israel, they never mentioned the Jewish religion nor the Jewish ethnicity. They only mentioned a plausible intent which is as been ruled by the world’s highest court as plausible.

If you want to deem your parent an anti-semite, then you’ll have to deem pretty much everybody outside of Israel and even many people inside Israel (including the ad-hoc Israeli judge that ruled against Israel at the ICJ).

As a survivor of a volcanic eruption in Grindavík, with the future live of my home town uncertain, and my family turned refugees, I can sympathize with people that have to live in fear of a terrorist bomb hitting their home and have to occasionally flee to bomb shelter. But that is not what your parent was talking about, was it.

Me and my family don’t know half of what the people in Gaza are going through. Heck, me and my family don’t know 2^-10 of what is going on in Gaza. And if you have had to run to bomb shelters a couple of dozens of times, it still does not come even close to 2^-10 of the horrors the people of Gaza have to go through, as they are very plausibly living though being victims of a genocide.

Re: UNRWA-Hamas Relations

#50

Post by jnsaff2 »

runarberg wrote: post #49
gryzzly wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are a demonising antisemite, that’s all. I wish for your family to never have to run to the bomb shelters or bury a relative who was killed by a terrorist.

Your parent was only ever talking about the state of Israel, they never mentioned the Jewish religion nor the Jewish ethnicity. They only mentioned a plausible intent which is as been ruled by the world’s highest court as plausible. If you want to deem your parent an anti-semite, then you’ll have to deem pretty much everybody outside of Israel and even many people inside Israel (including the ad-hoc Israeli judge tha…

> Your parent was only ever talking about the state of Israel, they never mentioned the Jewish religion nor the Jewish ethnicity.

In that comment. Look at their other comments and you can see a clearer picture of trollish hate.

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