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'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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I had no idea who Dan Preston was until Tan complained about him, but given > In 2022, Preston proposed a ballot measure to tax vacant housing in San Francisco. I think I might just love the guy. Thanks for the awareness campaign Garry!

Perhaps I could interest you in some rent control too.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#152
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You'd never guess that this was a Tupac quote by the media coverage and wave after wave of forced outrage. The whole thing is so embarassing.

If Tan's enemies had quoted Tupac's death-wish songs with his name in it, would Tan not have pointed to it as evidence of their vitriol and toxicity?

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read HN probably more than I should, and I was pretty surprised to see this has over 500 comments and I didn't see it at all. Turns out it was only on the frontpage for 1 hr. https://hnrankings.info/39205676/

I was offline for a few hours and am just getting to this thread now. Here are the explanations I posted in the previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39210947 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39172045 If you or anyone read those and have a question that isn't answered there, I'd be happy to take a crack at it. Edit: I've turned off both the flags and flamewar detector on this article now, in keep…

Thanks Dan. When I wrote my comment I thought most people would already know that it was most likely an automated system that downranked the post. The next time I talk about this topic I'll make it extra clear I'm not insinuating any manual censorship.

With that said, it is a shame that in cases like this, you may not even know about a post with hundreds of comments unless someone sends you a link. Have you thought about implementing a view that ignores the flamewar detection? This could even be a historical view, like https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2024-01-31 . The post in question was one of the highest upvoted submissions of the day and yet it's not on the first page of this link.

I fully agree with you that in the majority of cases these comments are not encouraging intellectual curiosity, I still do like reading the comments because I do find some interesting stuff there sometimes.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#154
post #11

Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39205676

I read HN probably more than I should, and I was pretty surprised to see this has over 500 comments and I didn't see it at all. Turns out it was only on the frontpage for 1 hr. https://hnrankings.info/39205676/

The only reasonable HN interface is hckrnews.com. The vanilla site is "moderated"

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#155
post #134

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The reaction feels like pearl-clutching to be honest. This is the kind of shitpost most people would be able to get away with, but Tan is now too important -- and will have to curate his communications more. Especially if he's going to take such a strong position against incumbent politicians cautious of their own images. It also feels like a smart political play by his targets to discredit him. They were probably wa…

Threatening to kill someone isn’t a “shitpost”. The fact it’s a Tupac lyric is not like common knowledge. I doubt a random poll of Twitter users would show most people would know the reference immediately.

To be fair, who doesn't listen to Tupac?

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#156

I had no idea who Dan Preston was until Tan complained about him, but given > In 2022, Preston proposed a ballot measure to tax vacant housing in San Francisco. I think I might just love the guy. Thanks for the awareness campaign Garry!

Perhaps I could interest you in some rent control too.

Ruins market mechanisms too much. Taxing vacancies doesn't ruin the supply and demand equations.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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> I sincerely wish the worst things imaginable for these activist journalists. They are the enemy of the people. This is unironically the kind of shit that authoritarians love to say about journalists.

That's an association fallacy and doesn't make it any less true.

Your palpable anger at people who say things you don't like isn't helping your case. Maybe you made a fallacy fallacy.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threatening to kill someone isn’t a “shitpost”. The fact it’s a Tupac lyric is not like common knowledge. I doubt a random poll of Twitter users would show most people would know the reference immediately.

Sure, and that was the misstep here. He clearly wasn't threatening to kill anyone, it was misinterpreted, he thought people would get a reference that they clearly did not. He's apologized, it's time to move on. There's better things to spend our outrage budget on IMO than someone who cares a little too much about city politics and has probably learned not to overestimate his audience's knowledge of Tupac.

I’m not sure who is supposed to “move on”.

It’s an election year. People will use the tweet as they see fit. Voters will ultimately decide whether it matters or not concerning candidates who have received money from Tan. But I don’t think this is the last we’ll hear about it.

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