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'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#91

I hope YC quickly moves on from Garry Tan. This sort of childish behaviour is not just dragging YC down but the startup community as a whole.

I wonder how many startup founders nowadays refuse to join an accelerator/take VC money due of the people leading it.

I suspect a lot more founders will apply to YC because they know the CEO has a heart, also a spine.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#92
> He employs partisan and apocalyptic language, calling opponents “cronies,” “corrupt” or “doom loop accelerationists,” and claiming they want to “destroy public safety” and “ruin” or “destroy” the city.

Whether it should be or not, this is basically par for the course for modern political discourse. What a weird line for the article.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#94

I hope YC quickly moves on from Garry Tan. This sort of childish behaviour is not just dragging YC down but the startup community as a whole.

I think this modern internet trend of saying that every mistake is inexcusable and should lead to a breakup is super weird and destructive.

What he said was bad, and wrong. But he just needs a scolding and some minor punishment and to then learn and not do it again. If it becomes a pattern then sure, that's a different thing.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#95
post #75

This sort of discourse would be flagged, moderated and possibly result in a ban here on HN. His actions seem to undermine a lot of what this community is meant to be about.

Well unless you tell the mods you were drunk, apparently. Then they shrug and say "well what can you do! It was the alcohol talking, not them "

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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post #24

That plaque on his Chinatown VIP club liquor cabinet really is pretty cringe. 'Added District 1 Supervisor Connie Chan: “I will waive rent for living in his head.”' Absolutely savage clapback.

Doesn’t the phrase “living rent free in your head” refer to someone being preoccupied with another individual with whom they have a disagreement to an unhealthy degree? You can’t waive rent if you’re the one doing the living, and by definition if someone is letting someone else “live rent free” in their head, the rent is already waived. Without any commentary on the rest of this (because I have no idea what’s actuall…

They were riffing on the idiom. You're taking the idiom too literally.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#97
post #4

> Tan, for his part, apologized over the weekend, noting that his post was a reference to a Tupac Shakur lyric How famous does someone have to be joke about a politician dying before it’s a problem? Tan is less famous than Charlie Sheen or Johnny Depp, who have joked about Trump dying. Also, from Wikipedia: “Tan supported the 2022 recall campaign against progressive San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin. Tan d…

Tan said he was drunk and apologised for his statements. Instead of oddly defending them maybe you should follow his lead and not act like saying someone should die slowly is a joke. Especially in this world where politicians have been subjected to credible death threats.

People joke about people they hate dying all the time.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#98
post #11

Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39205676

I read HN probably more than I should, and I was pretty surprised to see this has over 500 comments and I didn't see it at all. Turns out it was only on the frontpage for 1 hr. https://hnrankings.info/39205676/

I was offline for a few hours and am just getting to this thread now. Here are the explanations I posted in the previous threads:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39210947

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39172045

If you or anyone read those and have a question that isn't answered there, I'd be happy to take a crack at it.

Edit: I've turned off both the flags and flamewar detector on this article now, in keeping with the first rule of HN moderation, which is (I'm repeating myself but it's probably worth repeating) that we moderate HN less, not more, when YC or a YC-funded startup is part of a story (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...). Please note: that doesn't mean we don't moderate at all; what it means is that whatever we would normally do, we do less of it in such cases.

Normally we would never late a ragestorm like this stay on the front page—there's zero intellectual curiosity here, as the comments demonstrate. This kind of thing is obviously off topic for HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If it weren't, the site would consist of little else. Equally obvious is that this is why HN users are flagging the story. They're not doing anything different than they normally would.

All this goes double when a story has already had extensive discussion, and more still when the article is sourcing its content from Hacker News itself, as this one is. That's absurd. But I'm willing to take the hit because the first rule of HN moderation is more important.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#99
post #44

As a YC alum who worked with Gary Tan directly, this is… odd. Anyone who knows Gary knows he’s a (relatively) gentle human being. I can’t imagine him hurting a fly. His tweets seem totally out of character compared to the Gary Tan I personally knew. Maybe he has changed? I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

A tweet is a thought with cheap delivery, therefore offers no insight at all. It's just like an anecdote from executive leadership to get something over the line to meet a goal. That person has absolutely forgot they said it the next day.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

#100
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way HN is set up, having 500 comments would have contributed to that. The "flamewar detector" the mods sometimes mention seems to take comments/votes and comments/time into consideration then penalises threads.

Yep. The HN users see is highly curated. Mostly by algorithms, sometimes by humans.

You're right. Here's 10 years' worth of me explaining that:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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