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Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Post by brodouevencode » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 9:34 PM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #119

brodouevencode wrote: post #116

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There is a standard of reasonableness - i.e. if the diet and exercise program results are reasonably good. Good health doesn't have to be an exact science. Forgoing processed foods, forgoing too many calories, and taking a daily walk is sufficient for the average person. The questions you are asking here only matter at the extremes (professional athletes, et. al.), not to the average person.

No, that's my point. You're projecting your definitions of "sane", when there are thousands of choices to make. Avoiding processed foods isn't "simple", and who has decided a daily walk is sufficient?

The entire basis for western criminal law is a reasonableness standard. This seems to work pretty well. I figured out how to not feed processed foods to my family pretty easily, I take daily walks with my family, etc. and went from not great shape to pretty decent shape. I must be a genius.

But have it your way in the mire of pedantry you've carved out for yourself.

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Post by RockCoach » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 10:26 AM UTC

amatecha wrote: post #135

RockCoach wrote: post #21

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What is it with this obnoxious 'alternative' frat bro attitude among indoor climbers?

Umm, what? I was just being a bit funny with my positive realization that my recent undertaking of a new sport has more benefits than I was previously aware. Why are you insulting me?

I didn't mean to insult you personally. It's this braggadocious attitude that I've encountered in a lot of bouldering gyms that I've visited, so often that I assume it must part of the subculture mentality.

I love the sport and the physical challenge but I don't buy into the whole weed-smoking "I'm so counter-culture, bro" self-image. It's like Crossfit but for hipsters with shitty tattoos.

More than once, it seems, I (as a noobie) have been in the way of some "bro", who took a date to the bouldering gym in order to show off in front of the woman and (pretending to assist) to feel her up.

Maybe it's different where you train. Is it?

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Post by DanBC » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 10:22 PM UTC

sigmoid10 wrote: post #132

Attummm wrote: post #78

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That was my point on ambiguity, leads to confusion. Your interpretation is yours but how would your interpretation account for research on ultra processed food. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-are-ultra-processed...

That was not the question. Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?" The answer to that is simple: No. A balanced diet is a healthy mix of essential nutrients. Highly processes foods rich in fat or sugar are not part of it [1]. Most advisories merely acknowledge that a large part of the population doesn't want to stop eating this stuff completely. But the real goal should always be zero. [1] https:…

> Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?"

> The answer to that is simple: No

Registered healthcare professionals - dietitians - disagree with you, and do so pretty strongly.

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Post by sigmoid10 » Mon, Feb 05, 2024, 9:33 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #143

sigmoid10 wrote: post #132

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That was not the question. Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?" The answer to that is simple: No. A balanced diet is a healthy mix of essential nutrients. Highly processes foods rich in fat or sugar are not part of it [1]. Most advisories merely acknowledge that a large part of the population doesn't want to stop eating this stuff completely. But the real goal should always be zero. [1] https:…

> Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?" > The answer to that is simple: No Registered healthcare professionals - dietitians - disagree with you, and do so pretty strongly.

What are you talking about? The literal NHS disagrees with your statement.

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Post by sigmoid10 » Mon, Feb 05, 2024, 9:36 PM UTC

Attummm wrote: post #140

sigmoid10 wrote: post #132

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That was not the question. Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?" The answer to that is simple: No. A balanced diet is a healthy mix of essential nutrients. Highly processes foods rich in fat or sugar are not part of it [1]. Most advisories merely acknowledge that a large part of the population doesn't want to stop eating this stuff completely. But the real goal should always be zero. [1] https:…

Your link doesnt have any mention of processed food. Also it starts with that it's not to goal to adhere 100% and its not needed. As such it does contain fastfood and ultra processed food. As being part of healthy diet. Thus leading to my initial point, a balanced and healthy diet are too ambiguous. > The Eatwell Guide shows how much of what we eat overall should come from each food group to achieve a healthy, balanc…

>Your link doesnt have any mention of processed food.

It does if you know what you are looking for. "Highly processed" is not strictly well defined, but commonly understood as foods with large amounts of added salt, fat and sugar. That's exactly the category of food they talk about in the article as unnecessary for our diet and which should be consumed as little as possible.