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Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Able to pass a combat fitness test != "moderately fit"

Apparently 6 pull ups are now a super human feat who no one is expected to manage.

Even more apparently, that wasn’t the entire test.

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>Does a balanced diet include fast food? How much ultra-processed food? There seems to be some confusion here. "Balanced" means balanced in terms of micro and macro-nutrients that the body needs. Not balanced in the ratios of ultra-processed junk food and healthy food.

That was my point on ambiguity, leads to confusion. Your interpretation is yours but how would your interpretation account for research on ultra processed food. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-are-ultra-processed...

That was not the question. Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?"

The answer to that is simple: No.

A balanced diet is a healthy mix of essential nutrients. Highly processes foods rich in fat or sugar are not part of it [1]. Most advisories merely acknowledge that a large part of the population doesn't want to stop eating this stuff completely. But the real goal should always be zero.

[1] https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-guidelines-and-fo...

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A friend of mine is a cardiac nurse and get massively frustrated by the overly complex regimens that people follow while ignoring the obvious stuff. e.g. going for low-gluten diets while drinking too much alcohol and not exercising enough. In terms of food I've always loved Michael Pollen's description of healthy eating as opposed to fad diets: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

How is low gluten obvious?

The author was giving that as an example of a complicated diet that might not help as much as "the obvious".

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> Our mouths are too small for the number of teeth we have. Is that a general thing? I was under the impression those of us from the British isles had a problem because of mixed heritage due to repeated invasion: we've managed to inherit a tendency for smaller jaws from southern influences and bigger teeth from north/west Europe.

I've not heard of that myself, but it wouldn't take much evidence to convince me as that seems very plausible.

I read somewhere that modern jaws don't stick out enough because we don't chew enough tough stuff growing up. We were evolved to chew roots a fair bit.

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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Huh, so going indoor climbing 2-3x a week has not only boosted my strength and endurance, but is also apparently reducing my chance of prostate cancer?? Sweeeeet.

What is it with this obnoxious 'alternative' frat bro attitude among indoor climbers?

Umm, what? I was just being a bit funny with my positive realization that my recent undertaking of a new sport has more benefits than I was previously aware. Why are you insulting me?

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For most folks who are longer in sport, it is by far the best activity that can be done. I do in some form: hiking/camping in wilderness, swimming, biking, paragliding, climbing, via ferratas, alpinism, diving, skiing, ski touring/alpinism and few other things, on top just training with weights and running. Kids cut it significantly but I am still there. Climbing in non-winter conditions (or indoor) and ski touring a…

Does climbing really expose you to your fear of death? You're strapped in, and possibly wearing a helmet if outside, while either top roped or clipped in metal anchors. I can see that fear if you're free climbing, though. I've gone dozens of times, mostly because friends can't get enough of it, but I find it slow, boring and expensive. I've done mostly outdoor, but some indoor, and while sometimes I enjoy the technic…

There's definitely a primal fear when you're 15-20m up on a rock where you feel like you have nothing to grip onto (or you're losing your strength) and you're going to fall -- even if you rationally know you'll be 100% fine, there's something you have to battle where it just "feels wrong" and you feel some kind of fundamental risk. The feeling tends to vary though, but it's quite common.

Also, yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. I only tried it out at 39 and am finding it super fun and satisfying/rewarding, so I'm all-in, but a lot of people "nope out" due to total disinterest after trying it!

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> We've been eating it for a couple of millions of years. My grandparents were farmers before farming became industrialized. If you look at how much meat they ate, it's very little compared to current generations. Plus, what the cows and pigs ate in those days was very different than what they feed them today. I know of a farmer that raises a cow for his own consumption, and that one gets different food than all the…

The premises of your argument, i.e. what your grandparent's did and animals dietary changes, are insufficient to justify your firm conclusion.

I was responding to another comment, so my conclusion was not fully stated in my comment alone.

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post #36

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For most folks who are longer in sport, it is by far the best activity that can be done. I do in some form: hiking/camping in wilderness, swimming, biking, paragliding, climbing, via ferratas, alpinism, diving, skiing, ski touring/alpinism and few other things, on top just training with weights and running. Kids cut it significantly but I am still there. Climbing in non-winter conditions (or indoor) and ski touring a…

Does climbing really expose you to your fear of death? You're strapped in, and possibly wearing a helmet if outside, while either top roped or clipped in metal anchors. I can see that fear if you're free climbing, though. I've gone dozens of times, mostly because friends can't get enough of it, but I find it slow, boring and expensive. I've done mostly outdoor, but some indoor, and while sometimes I enjoy the technic…

Yes it does, definitely for me, depending on the route. But I have great imagination, my internal renderer can project a new house construction in 2 seconds but can also in 0.1s project gnarly consequences of the fall right here right now. With experience you get better but I've never lost it, just became better at managing it (this is the growth part I mentioned).

Indoor routes are generally very safe due to frequent bolts, outdoor it depends, with bolts easily 4-5m apart, not so much. I still talk purely about sport climbing with drilled bolts, not trad climbing where you put expansion devices into cracks yourself or wedge tiny metal bits and pray intensely you won't actually fall on them.

I don't want to go into detailed climbing & fall physics but if in such a route you fall just before next bolt (or during an attempt to clip into it), you can easily swing up to 8m down, hit a ledge, part of rock with serious force, or just be smashed against rock face hard (if you are in overhang then all is fine obviously, just belayer will fly hard). Broken/twisted ankles, wrists etc are not that uncommon in such situation, or worse depending on position, usage of helmet etc.

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Saturated fat (the most prevalent fat in meat) is causally connected to cardiovascular disease. This is based on a huge amount of evidence and, if you are going to discount it, I suggest you also should discount the whole field of nutrition, because this is the close to a scientific fact as we can get.

For the record, I _do_ think that the whole field of nutrition should be discounted. In the popular imagination we to tend blame journalism for the "one minute x causes cancer, the next minute x cures cancer" style flip-flopping, and I don't doubt some blame is due. However, the underlying science is hopelessly confounded and generates spurious small effects that are probably artefacts of the data than real effects.…

> What is the causal connection you are talking about?

↑ Saturated fats > ↑ LDL > ↑ Cardiovascular Disease

We have mendelian (genetic) studies that attest the causality of this link, ie. people who are naturally born with low LDL have less CVD. Not sure why you think this is not a compelling narrative.

Re: Getting fitter can reduce prostate cancer risk by 35%, study finds

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post #78

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That was my point on ambiguity, leads to confusion. Your interpretation is yours but how would your interpretation account for research on ultra processed food. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-are-ultra-processed...

That was not the question. Your question was: "Does a balanced diet include fast food?" The answer to that is simple: No. A balanced diet is a healthy mix of essential nutrients. Highly processes foods rich in fat or sugar are not part of it [1]. Most advisories merely acknowledge that a large part of the population doesn't want to stop eating this stuff completely. But the real goal should always be zero. [1] https:…

Your link doesnt have any mention of processed food. Also it starts with that it's not to goal to adhere 100% and its not needed. As such it does contain fastfood and ultra processed food. As being part of healthy diet.

Thus leading to my initial point, a balanced and healthy diet are too ambiguous.

> The Eatwell Guide shows how much of what we eat overall should come from each food group to achieve a healthy, balanced diet.

> You do not need to achieve this balance with every meal, but try to get the balance right over a day or even a week.

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