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Infinite Craft

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Re: Infinite Craft

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I don't get it; maybe it's broken in my browser. I can drag 4 types of items to a floating grid that connects them but then nothing happens. EDIT: Ah, you drag items on top of each other for them to change. Instructions unclear, and I am dumb.

Yep, at first i tried to make geometric arrangements out of multiple items too.

Water surrounded by 5 fire in a circle - ish - did absolutely nothing.

Only by checking the HN comments i figured out you have to combine items.

Re: Infinite Craft

#322
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Ahh, neat application of it. Explains the somewhat dubious combinations I was seeing.

Forest + fire = smoke Mud + water = swamp Swamp + plant = Venus Flytrap Okay, okay. Venus Flytrap + Smoke = smoke detector

I've also got a few where it just mashes adjectives together; so far I've found Time Poseidon, Rainbow Steam Robocloud and Broken Unicorn, among other similar ones.

Re: Infinite Craft

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I was able to get piranhaconda from sharknado and Jack Sparrow. Sharnado from shark and tornado and Jack Sparrow from sparrow and captain. I then got Ice piranhaconda (which was a first discovery) from iceberg and piranhaconda.

This is just gonna be a list of first discoveries. Ice Piranhaconda, Jackie Chan in Pirate Of The Caribbean 4, Jackie Chan vs. Piranhaconda, Chest Piranhaconda, Pirates Of The Caribbean 4, Jackie Chan vs. Sharknado, Jackie Chan vs. Sharknado 2, Jackie Chan vs. Sharknado 3, Jackie Chan vs. Sharknado 4, Fire Alexa, Ghostbusters 14,15,29,30,60,120,240, (I'm stopping Ghostbusters now), Fire Ahab, Ghostbuster Pan, Stinky Gold, Ghost Whale, Fido, Ghost Narwhal, Superdogman, Superdogman and the Super Justice League, Stinkfly,Super Apple Pie Man,Superstump, Iphone Peice, Captain Piece, and Captain America Piece

Re: Infinite Craft

#324
post #300

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Yeah I'm pretty sure you could do this just with the classic word embeddings (king =queen + man - woman). Maybe it doesn't work as well as with a full LLM.

Addition won't work for things that depend on the order of operations. If salt + water is ocean and water + fire is steam, what's salt + water + fire? Is it salt + steam or ocean + fire? Associativity and commutivity in vector addition doesn't translate well to semantic meaning. Extrapolating your example, it'd also mean: v_king - v_queen ~= v_father - v_mother v_king - v_royalty ~= v_father - v_parent v_king - v_fat…

Isn't the reason for lack of associativity/commutivity is that you're doing operations (addition/subtraction) that have them, and then snapping the result to the closest one of fixed number of points in your output dictionary? The addition is fine, loss of information is in the final conversion.

Re: Infinite Craft

#325
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One person's specific usage of AI, in a specific game, where the AI was constrained to only coming up with words that have an associated emoji, is not a referendum on whether or not AI itself has common sense. That's like saying paint is boring because someone made a crappy painting, or code is limited because someone made an app you don't like.

Sure, its not a referendum, but its a prominent sign that even with this task AI can fail spectacularly. P.S. Today I learned from AI that Sphinx + Drunk = Sphinxter.

What would the right answer be?

Re: Infinite Craft

#326
post #72

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I just described it to my colleagues as > this uses GenAI in order to attempt being truly infinite, or at least not bounded by their ability to design and input combinations themselves It's fair to go for that name imho. Not strictly correct, but 100% fair.

That's just generative or procedural though. It's ok of course that it's not truly infinite, I'm just posting because it was disappointingly finite . There were concepts I was trying to build up to that simply didn't exist. So I'm not even sure if it's less bounded than human design, just less manual effort to build. All I'm saying really is, if it had just been called "AI Generative Craft" I would have had nothing t…

Couldn't build up to doesn't mean they didn't exist... it took me a while to make a "Sandwich". But after spending enough (too much) time with it, I was able to construct some things that show it's not disappointingly finite:

* "Bollygraff"

* "Teen Mom 12"

* "Hackimus Prime"

* "Billionaire King + Sushi Burger Venus" (sic)

One potentially frustrating part is that some things turn out to be black holes... for example, combine "Trump" with anything and it tends to return "Trump". There are also plenty of loops, and some that refuse to combine at all.

Re: Infinite Craft

#327
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There are a couple of things that seem to combine with others in a very general way... "were-", "[the] Impaler" (!), "Rich[est]"... I was able to get some things like "Were-jesus-pope-hamster-crusader", "Trump-jesus-trump", "Pope Impaler", "Trump Impaler", "Vlad the Werehamster", "Richest were-genghis Khan", and also "Were-were-werewolf"! I think the willingness of the language model to make up character names like t…

I've found "Muddy", "Zombie", and "Frat Party" to work as universal affixes too. e.g. I'm up to "Muddy Werejesus + Muddy Zombie Jesus Frat Party" (the single phrase includes the plus sign). At this point the UI refuses to mix additional ingredients.

Re: Infinite Craft

#328

there's an issue with the algorithm, the more you play, longer it takes to calculate...neat example for time complexity analysis.

No - it’s just the more you play, the more likely you are to run into novel, uncached combinations that require invoking the LLM

Re: Infinite Craft

#329

I wish this were an actual game! Like keep showing me a desired item to craft, that requires crafting 2 or 3 items to get to -- e.g. combine 2 existing things, then with a third existing thing. Or combine 2 existing things, another 2 existing things, and then combine those. And obviously it keeps getting more complex the more items I acquire along the way. And each time I play it's randomized. (And let me play entire…

Doodle God works exactly this. Very satisfying, fully polished.

Re: Infinite Craft

#330
Like most nifty LLM apps it's cool but fun for maybe 45 seconds.

Open source LLM's exist at the Family Feud brain stage (instinctive first pass human verbal intuition) so its depth is limited by that.

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